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openProduction Rumour / Hearsay?
Is there a trope where there's a rumour about something that happened during an events production, but there's nothing saying one way or the other whether it's true? And even the cast can't necessarily share the same story.
I was looking up some cast interviews for To Wong Foo, Thanks for Everything! Julie Newmar, and one thing that popped out is that multiple people have set there was at least one fist fight on set between the three leads but not everyone agrees on who was involved—some say it was Swayze and Snipes, some Swayze and Leguizamo, and some say they don't recall it at all. There's also the matter of Swayze claiming that Snipes burned his costume after the film ended because he hated the film so much, but in interviews Snipes talks about growing up with friends in the ball community and being inspired by the queens he knew when he took on the role, even making sure the film isn't left out of lists of his popular roles.
I feel like this is in the vicinity of Word of Saint Paul? But instead of it being a castmember talking about something within the story, they're talking about a real thing that allegedly happened but can't be confirmed.
Edited by SparkyYoungUpstartopenHead bobbing on Water shot
A shot of When a character’s head rises half way out of a body of water, just the top f the head, eyes, nose, and hair , dripping wet, and hair plastered
Examples: Pennywise Georgie puppet scene you’ll float two,
openNon-appearing members
Is there a trope for when, of a group of characters said to have a large number of people in it, only a few of them are ever introduced or shown onscreen? For example, in Yonderland, there’s apparently 12 Elders, despite only five being major characters and eight appearing at all.
Edited by GrandCheeseopenOverdue for Maintenance
AKA, "How did you let it get this bad?". Is there a trope for this yet?
When someone hasn't taken care of their car, or something else they own, to the point that problems have piled up to an alarming degree. They probably still aren't worried about it, certainly not as much as whoever they've asked to fix it. Meanwhile, any engineer will start internally screaming when they see it, and may desperately want to get their hands on it and start fixing it.
The classic example is someone ignoring a Check Engine light on their car... and maybe the five or ten other warning lights on their dashboard. As such, it's something you'd expect to see a lot with The Alleged Car.
However, another example would be a computer that's overloaded with malware, including many things the user downloaded themselves... and yet, they can't for the life of them understand why the internet is running so slowly.
In a really broad sense, this could also be a house that's overdue for cleaning ("You live like this?"), but I feel like this is a trope you see more for technology, vehicles, and appliances. Basically anything that someone might "fix" with Percussive Maintenance, even though it obviously needs much, much more.
What brought it to mind was Starstruck Vagabond — the NPCs you help might have no power and no oxygen on their ship, and they'll be about as worried about it as if their sink was clogged. When you look into why, you'll find that filters are clogged, wires are sparking, everything's out of alignment, there are some holes on the outside... plenty of things that should have been fixed long before they set off into space.
Edited by JaydeisopenIs there a trope for Bingo gags?
An example of what I mean is in TheRussianBadger's episode for Enlisted, "Chuckles in Flammenwerfer", has a bingo sheet of all the various jokes and gags expected in the episode.
openSelf Love Moral
Is there a trope for when, in a story focused on a character trying to win someone else's love, the climax is them realizing that the way they solve their issues is respecting themselves instead of chasing after someone? The examples I'm thinking of
- In Scott Pilgrim vs. The World where Scott gets The Power of Self-Respect (which manifests as a Cool Sword) after acknowledging his own shortcomings in his relationships and knowing that, regardless of who decides to go out with him (if anyone) he needs to work on himself
- In The Big Leap and by extension the in-universe production of Swan Lake being choreographed, Gabby can't relate to the traditional ending of Odette throwing herself off a cliff and dying after being rejected by Siegfried. Instead she works with Monica and they decide that, if true love must break the curse, Odette's true love should be herself. It also reflects Gabby's own struggles, who's been trying to define her worth by her love life and talent instead this whole time.
Gabby: Let's be honest, my problems won't go away if Reggie loves me or if someone comes to save me from my dead-end job, maybe Odette can save herself by loving herself.
Monica: Oh my god. So she says goodbye to Siegfried, she runs up the precipice tormented. She looks back one last time...and then she looks down at the lake. She sees her reflection. She's like..."well screw that! I'm glorious. Radiant. Sacred. Complete."
Gabby: I know in real life it's impossible, but why can't Odette do it?
openBoss hates me, but higher boss likes me
Character has a boss (any kind of "boss" will do) who hates him. However, Boss' ability to do anything is limited, because a higher Boss likes Character and is protecting him. There are MANY examples of this dynamic in fiction:
1. MASH (Frank Burns / Colonel Blake to Hawkeye)
2. Good Morning Vietnam (Sgt.Maj. Dickenson and Hawk / Gen Taylor to Cronauer)
3. Troop Beverly Hills (Velda / Frances to Phyllis)
4. Down Periscope (Adm Graham / Adm Windslow to Dodge)
5. Top Gun, Maverick (Cyclone / Iceman to Maverick)
6. Mad Men, First Season (Draper / Cooper to Pete)
7. The Good Doctor (Melendez / Glassman to Murphy, later Park / Andrews to Murphy)
8. The Green Mile (Paul / the unnamed Governor to Percy)
9. Averted in Casino (Sam / Commissioner Webb to the Ward, the slots manager.
Edited by wsmith76openVirgin kills for the girl
Character (usually male) does anything another character (female) wants because of either love, lust, both, or by confusing one for the other. Usually involves a lot of fighting and/or killing and the second character is usually not completly honest with the first character and/or is manipulating them.
Examples: - Scott Pilgrim and Ramona Flowers (Scott Pilgrim) - Denji and Makima (Chainsaw Man) - Naota and Haruko (FLCL) - Travis Touchdown and Sylvia Christel (No More Heroes 1 and 2) - Kaim and Sirene (Devilmay)
openInsecure Incompetent
Bob is utterly worthless at his job, knows it, and compensates by being an utter hardass, seeing any initiative taken by his underlings as deliberately undermining him.
openWhat trope can describe this situation?
What trope can describe these characters, one heroic and one villanous, and both males? The heroic character:
- Is obsessed with being seen as manly;
- Because of that, he really dislikes stereotypically "girly" stuff, and he tries to avoid it at all costs, even if he will come off as ridiculous to the other characters;
- He's not even trans, so the reason for his behaviour is simply good ol' fragile masculinity;
- While less obvious, he also has troubles expressing his sexuality, doesn't know what place he has in the world, and secretely wants to be praised;
- Despite this, he still tries to do something constructive with his life, he helps people because it's the right thing to do and can't stand when bad things happen to others, tries to be supportive even in secret, and he's willing to sacrifice his dreams or life for the greater good.
- Pure Entitled Bastard;
- He became a villain with the excuse of punishing the world because he was never loved or praised;
- However, he refuses to accept that he was never liked because of how unpleasant he really is in general, and believes he just deserves love, power, money, and other stuff;
- Because of his actions, the heroic character above rose up to thwart this character's threat, and after repeated clashes, they developed a profound hatred for each other, and each other's ideologies.
Would this simply be a case of Good Flaws, Bad Flaws?
Edited by TMH-Sir-Iron-VomitopenLet The Broken Base Sort It Out
Two sides of an argument keep pushing for their opinion. The person responsible for whatever it is they want says that since anything he does is considered pandering to the other, he's going to ignore them/the problem until they come to an agreement.
e.g. Charlie is in charge of a college radio. Alice wants more classical music, Bob wants more rock. Charlie tells them he'll play one of each as a compromise, which neither agrees to. Before things degenerate into a Snobs Vs Slobs fight, Charlie tells them to work out a compromise, and until they come back to him with a playlist they both agree on, he'll put on whatever music he feels like.
Edited by Chabal2openA dinosaur example for Hijacked by Ganon
Are there any characters who were dinosaurs that fall into the Hijacked by Ganon Trope like Rexy in Jurassic Park: the game?
openA dinosaur example for Disc-One Final Boss
Were there any example of a character who is a dinosaur besides Rexy in Jurassic Park, Indominus Rex in Camp Cretaceous season 1, and Scorpius Rex in Camp Cretaceous season 3 that served as Disc-One Final Bosses in any work?
openA dinosaur example for Greater-Scope Villain
Is there any example of a character who is an actual dinosaur of sorts like Trinity from Dino Stalker or Mr. Ashland in Dinosaur tv show that were were Greater-Scope Villains in that work?
openEpisode pulled from former production slot for continuity reasons Live Action TV
This is when a TV series has an episode listed in a specific production slot, but the episode gets pulled from there (whether it be scrapped or moved to later in the season) due to the directors feeling like it would present continuity issues.
Example: The Really Loud House had an episode in its second season titled “Tennessee-you-later: A Very Loud Road Trip” that originally occupied the fifth production slot. However, it was later removed from said production slot, and the first episode, “A Musical to Remember”, was split to occupy two production slots, thus pushing what were originally episodes 2-4 to occupy slots 3-5. Since the season is still ongoing and it has not been revealed whether the episode was pushed or scrapped, some fans believe that it was pulled from its production slot due to another episode, “The Tennessee Surprise: Love Is in the Air” (ninth in production order, second/third in broadcast order), presenting controversial continuity errors. In said episode, Lincoln mentions that he has not seen his girlfriend, Charlie, in over a year. To some viewers (especially those who are familiar with the franchise’s tendency to keep the continuity tied to the production order), this may lead them to believe that had “Tennessee-you-later: A Very Loud Road Trip” (which had the premise of Lincoln going on a road trip to surprise Charlie on Thanksgiving) remained in its former production slot, they would have had a plot twist about Lincoln not seeing Charlie on Thanksgiving inadvertently spoiled to them.
openContinuity matches broadcast order, but not production order Live Action TV
I believe this would be a YMMV trope, but I still want to know what it’s called.
Basically, it’s whenever a television series airs its episodes out of production order, but when you look at the content of the episodes, you notice that there are several continuity issues that don’t make any sense if you watch the episodes in proper production order, but they make perfect sense if you watch them in the order they were aired.
Example: The Really Loud House - Most noticeable with the second season. Lincoln's ex-girlfriend, Charlie, dumps him in favor of another boy named Marcus in "The Tennessee Surprise: Love Is in the Air" (ninth episode in production order, second in broadcast order), and then it gets referenced in "Last Friend Standing" (fifth episode in production order, third in broadcast order). A story arc involving his relationship with Lynn's new friend, Zia, after Charlie dumped him then begins in "Louder by the Dozen" (sixth in production order, fourth in broadcast order), and at the end, Lynn prevents him from dating Zia because she doesn’t want it to feel like he is stealing her friend, only to relent this in "Nice Guys Finish First" (third in production order, fifth in broadcast order).
Edited by BlankBlanknessopenMake it their problem
Something I've seen in advice columns for dealing with a problem that another person doesn't want to deal with/doesn't think warrants their intervention is to allow the problem to affect them (even/especially when this goes against the principle of being helpful to others).
For instance, Alice has problems with her coworker Bob's work, specifically the fact that she keeps having to help him finish at the cost of her own projects getting delayed. She's asked her manager Charlie but he's done nothing, so the advice she gets is to stop helping Bob by showing that she has too much work to do on her own.
Charlie only notices because he's chewed out by his boss about his department's slow results, which finally leads to him talking with Bob and Bob either shaping up or being fired.
openFrosted glass teaser
Is there one about frosted glass being used to give a teaser or preview about something inside? For example, in Willy Wonka & the Chocolate Factory: after the black and white room where the characters have become hysterical because it is small and crowded, Wonka suddenly "finds" the door, and the visitors protest they have just come through there. The outline of a clearly different room is seen through the frosted glass, and Wonka throws open the door to confirm this.
Similarly, in Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, the presence of the Oompa-Loompas is hinted at by mention of shadows of short people at the factory windows.
Edited by tropematteropenNon-private bathroom
Is there one about a bathroom not being as private as it should be, because one can see through the windows from outside, somebody thinks their outline might be seen through frosted glass, or the door or lock is not reliable?
Attacking someone through technology that seems unlikely or illogical. Usually because it's funny.
Like being on the phone with someone and they just punch you through the receiver. Or fire lightning bolts etc. Could also apply to psychic powers and STD still working through technology.
Not looking for technopathy.