Today was the closing argument in the trial of Nathaniel Veltman a Canadian man who, in 2021, ran with his vehicle over a Muslim family that was taking a walk in Ontario, killing four members of it.
A nine-year-old boy was seriously hurt, but survived.
He was charged with four first-degree murder and one count of attempted murder, plus terrorism charges.
The prosecution says that Veltman was radicalized because of white supremacist material he viewed on the Dark Web and that he wanted to send a "message "and make "all Muslims fearful for their safety"
His lawyer argued that his client was having "mental troubles" and that he should be prosecuted for manslaughter and not for first degree murder or terrorrism.
If found guilty, he will face a lifetime in prison.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-67409539
Edited by jawal on Nov 16th 2023 at 2:57:51 PM
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What are the criteria for "mental health problems" in Canada?
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
I am not Canadian, but if we are talking about criminal cases, then to mount a successful insanity defense, you have to prove that you are either:
1-Suffering from a mental disorder
2-Unable to appreciate the "nature and quality" of the act
3-Did not know the act was "wrong."
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1. A mental disorder, or "disease of the mind," is:
Any illness, disorder or abnormal condition that impairs the human mind and its functioning, excluding, however, self-induced states caused by alcohol or drugs, as well as transitory mental states such as hysteria or concussion.
Examples:
Retardation
Sleepwalking
Delirium Tremens
Toxic Psychosis
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2- Unable to appreciate the "nature and quality" of the act
The defendant is unable to appreciate the "physical character" and "physical consequences" of his actions.
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3- The defendant is deprived of the capacity for rational perception and, hence, rational choice about the rightness or wrongness of his acts
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Section 16 of the criminal code
Marginal note:Presumption
(2) Every person is presumed not to suffer from a mental disorder so as to be exempt from criminal responsibility by virtue of subsection (1), until the contrary is proved on the balance of probabilities.
Marginal note:Burden of proof
(3) The burden of proof that an accused was suffering from a mental disorder so as to be exempt from criminal responsibility is on the party that raises the issue.
Edited by jawal on Nov 16th 2023 at 4:13:45 PM
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Not sure what's causing this issue to erupt, but Michael Spavor's blaming Kovrig (the diplomat) for sharing information on North Korea that was used by Canadian intelligence (CSIS).
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Truck explosion closes Rainbow Bridge, the border Bridge over the Niagara Falls.
I like how Ramaswamy is calling it a terror attack with nothing to offer. Same with Fox News.
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Bad, reckless driving is still a serious issue in all countries, especially around the holidays. It can happen at any time. To anyone and everyone, genuinely stay safe out there.
Edited by CanuckMcDuck1 on Nov 23rd 2023 at 11:23:45 AM
I’m sorry, but you have Stage 9 Animes.
Closeup shots provided to CBC News about the car crash.
https://www.thebureau.news/p/canadian-senator-promised-to-support
Sam Cooper (investigative journalist) reported that Senator Yuen Pau Woo promised to help the United Front by shielding them from criticism from what's happening in Xinjiang.
Not surprised to me. He's been trying to prevent a foreign agent registry law from being enacted since he fears racism can come out of it. He's also pro-CCP rule of law during the pro-democrat protests in HK.
Shooting reported at the home of Satish Kumar, president of Surrey's Lakshmi Narayan Mandir temple, in the same city as the temple.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/oath-of-allegiance-king-charles-optional-1.7063273
Bill C-347 is being sponsored by New Brunswick Liberal MP René Arseneault. It'll make swearing oath to King Charles an optional requirement.
It's starting up the debate between pro-monarch and pro-republic.
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That’s been a long debate in Canada since at least this decade. I still remember how in a high school class when we first learned Queen Elizabeth II passed on, there was a real talk about whether Canada should just split from the monarchy entirely.
The many controversies they’ve had over the years (especially now with the Epstein list) don’t help matters.
I’m sorry, but you have Stage 9 Animes.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/north/nunavut-trudeau-sign-devolution-argreement-1.7086272
Nunavut signed a devolution agreement with Ottawa. They finally get more responsiblity on handling internal matters.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/emergencies-act-federal-court-1.7091891
Federal judge threw a wrench on the legality of using the Emergencies Act to stop the Freedom Convoy since it violated the Charter
He cited the “potential for serious violence, or being unable to say that there was no potential for serious violence was, of course, a valid reason for concern, But in my view, it did not satisfy the test required to invoke the Act, particularly as there was no evidence of a similar 'hardened cell' elsewhere in the country, only speculation, and the situation at Coutts had been resolved without violence."
Great, the right wing media (True North) is really celebrating the ruling in the federal court on the illegality of the Emergencies Act...
Phil Gurski, ex-CSIS/CSE agent turned risk analyst, argues that Ottawa over reached with the Emergencies Act and the Freedom Convoy really did not present itself as an overall national security threat unlike the one in the US.
https://globalnews.ca/news/10253816/foreign-interference-overseas-chinese-affairs-office/
First case of a Chinese woman who got removed from Canada due to pro-Beijing foreign interfernce ops.
CBC News long vid on why Canada took so long to get an inquiry on foreign intereference in Canadian politics.
As someone who is not Canadian I cannot tell if the average Canadian like Trudeau or not.
Never trust anyone who uses "degenerate" as an insult.
Depends on which policies or actions he did or didn’t do.
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As a day-to-day politician, he is a competent and stable leader. But between his constant trips abroad, the Black Face scandal, accidentally inviting a Nazi to be rewarded in congress, and doing little to combat the growing economic struggles and bigotry following Canada’s convoy protests, most Canadians I know think Trudeau won’t be re-elected.
Edited by CanuckMcDuck1 on Feb 6th 2024 at 7:53:45 AM
I’m sorry, but you have Stage 9 Animes.
"Fuck Trudeau" stickers are popular all throughout the country.
Just last week This Hour Has 22 Minutes said that 62% of Liberal voters vote Liberal not because they believe in the party, but because they don't want the Conservatives in charge.
I'm probably among them. I think Trudeau's term should come to an end, but I sure as hell won't be voting Conservative given today's politics and the Terror Convoy. I'll likely be voting NDP this coming major election.
Mmm. Trudeau started out popular, but his appeal has been worn down but a bunch of missteps and scandals over the years, so at this point it's more about keeping the MAGA-cosplayers out of power than actually liking Trudeau.
Oh yeah definitely, it would be supremely counter productive (though I feel, well the Conservatives would object even more strenuously, especially the Albertans we could definitely do more to combat climate change than just the carbon tax). We are facing the "You can't eat money" thing very directly.
They could do that yeah.