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StrawberryMiltank I hate the duck show lol Since: Feb, 2021
I hate the duck show lol
05/03/2021 15:36:56 •••

Not a great reboot even for casual viewers

I'm not a Ducktales fan in general I find it decent at best but somehow this reboot managed to go lower than meh for me. From the pilot I could see the issues that were starting to form and make this a bad reboot 1) too many references done badly . A reference heavy show Can work (I love Scooby Do Mystery Inc after all) but it also has to not fall on my nostalgia/knowledge to intrigue me . Ducktales tries to shove in as many as it can to appeal to people when a good story was enough. 2) Disney's addiction to multiverse syndrome. I'm kind of tired of seeing shows/I Ps being blended into one to create a multi verse of sorts like not everything has to be The MCU. 3) Bad characters . Webby is what happens when you strip Mabel Pines of the flawed but interesting aspects of her personality. Huey Dewey and Louie are self important Douchebags, Scrooge comes off as toothless and watered down. Launchpad is just an idiot

MorningStar1337 Since: Nov, 2012
03/13/2021 00:00:00

I\'m pretty sure Shared Universe is a more accurate term for point 2. AFAIK the Ducktales reboot seems to have little to do with alternate universes, like what the term Multiverse would suggest.

/pedantry

Awesomekid42 Since: Jul, 2012
03/14/2021 00:00:00

You lost me when you said a reference \"has to not fall on my nostalgia/knowledge to intrigue me\". References by definition are things that allude to other things. A person\'s nostalgia or knowledge of the source is the only way someone would GET the reference. (Also, from what I recall the only references in the pilot were a mention of Cape Suzette from Talespin, and the cameo of the original Webby\'s doll that isn\'t even brought attention to in the story)

Also, saying the Huey is a self important douchebag makes me question if you even watched the show. Literally his first action is making (badly cooked) breakfast for his uncle.

BrightLight Since: May, 2014
03/15/2021 00:00:00

This is one of the smartest and most unbiased reviews ever given to this honestly piece-of-crap show.

Thank you.

SpongeGuy11 Since: Jun, 2018
03/15/2021 00:00:00

You do realize Dewey and Louie actually do develop into being better as they go on (that was the point of Louie\'s arc in season 2).

Launchpad\'s idiocy actually got toned down later on from mid season 1 onward.

And could elaborate more on what made Mabel work but not Webby (course I never thought they were similar that much)? At least Webby is capable of making sacrifices to help people which Mabel didn\'t really do for Dipper (still like Mabel, I just prefer Webby) and never put an entire town at risk for a selfish goal.

StrawberryMiltank Since: Feb, 2021
03/21/2021 00:00:00

Mabel had actual flaws and felt like a person,A character who could be both good and bad you know an actual character not an idealized corporate nightmare . Webby is a to be blunt too perfectly bland/selfless and dangerously close to a Mary Sue (the ONLY thing keeping her from it is the fact the universe doesn\'t bend to her will). So many Disney female characters have this now where they can\'t have questionable human (I get shes a duck a but still) moments and I\'m tired of it like let female characters be imperfect and messy. Let them be characters

StrawberryMiltank Since: Feb, 2021
03/21/2021 00:00:00

Here\'s how I would\'ve fixed it -Disney Afternoon shared universe ? No its messy in a bad way and some of these shows deserved their own thing rather than bring shoved in . -Webby becomes an actual character . give her messy traits that make her interesting -Huey, Dewey and Louie give them something that doesn\'t feel like a boomer writing millennials , their snark isn\'t fun after awhile -Tone down references to media- some people aren\'t as experienced with sporting them but I am, if I get the obscure ones you\'re over using them lol

Don\'t change -Donald and Daisy are healthier here -the voice cast is good

megagutsman (Seven Years' War)
03/21/2021 00:00:00

\"Mabel had actual flaws and felt like a person,A character who could be both good and bad...\"

Nah, she\'s one note. She\'s selfish and only cares about getting a boyfriend. And what is even worse, she never changes. At the end of Weirmageddon part 3 she basically forces Dipper to throw his own wishes aside simply because she doesn\'t want to be apart from him. Shouldn\'t the correct thing to do is be happy that he is getting the best teacher in the world (Uncle Ford)? It shows that she hasn\'t learned a thing from this entire show.

Webby, instead, has her higs and lows. She can get angry with the titular trio and can be selfish, yet, at the end of the day she just wants to have adventures and help the family.

\"-Disney Afternoon shared universe ? No its messy in a bad way and some of these shows deserved their own thing rather than bring shoved in .\"

However, this would have required heavy rewritting because all of those characters and moments were in the old comics. It would have required to create new characters that are nothing more than replacement of the old crew. Tell me: How is this better?.

Besides, having all of these crossover characters is a good thing because Disney can use the show as a platform to gauge interest in said characters and see if reviving their own shows would be a good idea.

\"-Webby becomes an actual character . give her messy traits that make her interesting\"

Like which ones?.

\"Huey, Dewey and Louie give them something that doesn\'t feel like a boomer writing millennials , their snark isn\'t fun after awhile\"

Agree to disagree here. I don\'t think the act any different how a kid their age would act right now.

\"some people aren\'t as experienced with sporting them but I am, if I get the obscure ones you\'re over using them lol\"

Wait, are you saying that any refference you get is wrong? Okay, what a way to put your own opinion in a high pedestal. Or were you saying that you are so simple-minded that if you can get a refference then everybody else can as well? That is not a good argument either.

Awesomekid42 Since: Jul, 2012
03/21/2021 00:00:00

"Tone down references to media. Some people aren't as experienced with sporting them but I am"

"if I get the obscure ones you're over using them lol"

Those statements go against each other. How could you spotting the obscure ones be a sign that they're overused if, according to you, you're more experienced in spotting references than others?

Even disregarding the contradiction, the logic doesn't even make sense. How is getting an obscure reference a sign of overuse? The whole point of references is to refer to something, you know that right?

StrawberryMiltank Since: Feb, 2021
03/26/2021 00:00:00

1) Mabel didn\'t want to lose the one person who seemed to be her friend back home which is why she wasn\'t happy about it which makes sense I take issue with the one note thing because of that . She can be both funny and caring but also selfish and insecure like a person . Webby is just always helpful , always boring , needed to tap into the fact she was isolated for so long like its a bit shit writing when she\'s still shown to be sociable even with barely ANY prior socializing. Personally tap into that, make her wary of the triplets at first/make, her outside world endeavours more strained with people Make her actually weird . 2)You don\'t have the follow the old comics (which parts of this Don\'t to be honest) and it introduces too many side elements at once making any potential spin off be that just a spin off it would also give Disney Channel more animated content which is sorely needed . 3) References can be a failsafe to cover when writers can\'t think of anything to put there while it did come off as me being pretentious (I\'m sorry) it just annoys me when a,writer uses it as a crutch when they can\'t think of a joke or plot point that would\'ve fit better going obscure also can seem desperate unless it fits really well with the episode (some of these really didn\'t ) Maybe the Darkwing Duck reboot will be better (yes I\'m still going to watch it I give reboots all a chance )

megagutsman (Seven Years' War)
03/27/2021 00:00:00

\"Mabel didn\'t want to lose the one person who seemed to be her friend back home which is why she wasn\'t happy about it which makes sense...\"

Problem with this is that Mabel was working more like an anchor for Dipper at this point. He had the perfect future ready to welcome him with open arms and then Mabel came and took it from him. He could have learned from Ford, trained and toughed up with Grunkle Stan and overall become the greatest paranormal investigator he could be. Yet Mabel had to be selfish and basically force him to go back home with her, something is obvious to me he didn\'t want to.

\"...I take issue with the one note thing because of that.\"

Thing is though that the way I described Mabel is, honestly, the same way you could describe her in Episode 1. She never changes, never improves. She\'s always selfish. She has no character arc at all. How else can I call a character like that but one-note?.

\"Personally tap into that, make her wary of the triplets at first/make, her outside world endeavours more strained with people Make her actually weird.\"

They do use her lack of social connections as a way to bring up problems. Examples: In the very first episode she attacks the tripplets and basically kidnaps them to interrogate them because she didn\'t know them yet and didn\'t wait to hear who they were; In the episode \"The Last Crash of the Sunchaser!\" instead of staying quiet or reading the atmosphere and hiding some secrets, she worsens the entire problem of the episode by blurting out how Scrooge gifting Della a rocket when the later was about to became a mother was a bad idea meanwhile the tripplets were still angry and acting crazy; she even lead Lena (and in that way Magica as well) to Scrooge\'s vault simply because Lena lied to her (in a terrible way, mght I add) that she was also an Scrooge\'s fan. These situations and more showcase how her weak understanding of societal cues coupled over with her fanatism for Scrooge might lead to problems.

\"You don\'t have the follow the old comics (which parts of this Don\'t to be honest)...\"

Why not? Could you please explain further?.

\"...making any potential spin off be that just a spin off it would also give Disney Channel more animated content which is sorely needed.\"

Umm, what? This sounds like you are saying that Disney Channel getting more content (something you yourself just admitted they need) is somehow bad. You might want to rephrase this entire point.

\"References can be a failsafe to cover when writers can\'t think of anything to put there...\"

Not always the case. It heavily depends how the references are done and used. Besides, is not like this show pulls references every 5 minutes, there are episodes where they don\'t make even one sole reference.

\"...going obscure also can seem desperate unless it fits really well with the episode (some of these really didn\'t )\"

Examples needed.

Also, you might want to use dots (\".\") and commas (\",\") more often, because it was a little bit hard to know when one argument would end and another one would start.

SpongeGuy11 Since: Jun, 2018
05/03/2021 00:00:00

So, what even made Scooby Doo Mystery Incorporated work where Ducktales failed at?

And if you really hate Dewey and Louie that much, I would wonder what you think of Cricket from Big City Greens and Sprig from Amphibia seeing how they're both impulsive kids that tend to cause trouble in the plot too?

Heck, if you think Webby's bad here, do you think other Disney TVA females are better like Anne and Polly from Amphibia, Luz from Owl House, Star from Star vs the Forces of Evil, Mellissa from Milo Murphy's Law, and Tilly from Big City Greens since they're also modern Disney TVA females too and why?

Since you haven't mentioned them, what are your thoughts on how they did Donald, Della, and Beakley here? Heck, how do new players like Lena, BOYD, Violet, Gizmoduck, and Gyro stack up?


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