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phylos Since: Nov, 2013
Apr 14th 2021 at 11:12:51 PM •••

It seems like all the YMMV that give any sort of criticism to Dani (such as Unintentionally Unsympathetic, which she very much is to many) are heavily edited and ultimately deleted, leaving all the criticism of her exclusively as an example in Base-Breaking Character, but all the tropes criticizing her companions (the actual casualties in the movie at that) or celebrating their deaths (i.e. Catharsis Factor or Rooting for the Empire) are left as is. And even the one trope left of criticism of her (What Do You Mean, It's Not Didactic?) over half of it is justifying edits, not to mention that the trope itself technically qualifies and would probably have been put in Unfortunate Implications for other less divisive movies, specially since that critic is far from alone in her interpretation.

Either the tropes criticizing Dani should be kept as much as the opinions on the others, or everything regarding opinions on the characters should be left exclusively in Base-Breaking Character and Broken Base.

For now, I'm reading Unintentionally Unsympathetic.

Edited by phylos
CaptainCrawdad Since: Aug, 2009
Jul 13th 2020 at 12:56:32 PM •••

Removed:

  • Esoteric Happy Ending: The ending of the movie has Dani finally smiling and happy, supposedly free of the toxic relationships that kept her back in the outside world, and supposedly finally finding a family. However, there's also no denying that she's joining a violent, manipulative cult that's committed multiple murders for which she's played some part in their particularly brutal execution, meaning she's either lost all grip on her sanity, has turned Affably Evil in the end, or is in for a brutal awakening once her high finally wears off. The script implies that she has indeed lost her sanity by the end.

This trope is for happy endings that don't seem so happy when you take everything into consideration. But I don't think the ending is presented as happy at all, and I don't think anyone actually sees it as happy.

CaptainCrawdad Since: Aug, 2009
Jul 27th 2019 at 4:19:22 PM •••

Removed:

  • Values Dissonance: Swedish critics were bemused by the movie, and by being bombarded with questions from US critics wanting to know how factually accurate the film is. Swedish audiences, so far, seem to be treating it more or less as a straight-up Fish out of Water comedy.
    It has to be said: surely this is about cultural appropriation? I have nothing against the idea of gamely borrowing from other cultures… Still, I shift uneasily in the cinema seat. Are you really allowed to deface the nicest thing we have, midsummer, to this degree? Is it really okay to distort Swedish traditions like this before an international audience? Play up to the image of Swedes as a homogeneous and strange little people in the north? The answer is, of course, a resounding yes.

I'm not sure how this could be Values Dissonance since it's a modern film and was released by a Swedish production company, so it's not like the filmmakers didn't know what they were doing. The write-up seems more like Americans Hate Tingle due to the film's The Theme Park Version of Sweden.

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