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Dec 11th 2022 at 8:04:44 AM •••

I don’t think Jasper should be considered a Scrappy anymore. Tons of viewers, LGBT viewers too btw, are starting to look back on him in a less harsh light.

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Asue Since: Dec, 2011
Jan 23rd 2018 at 5:00:55 AM •••

Wait, you can't be both a Scrappy AND a Base-Breaking Character?

chasemaddigan Since: Oct, 2011
May 17th 2017 at 5:16:02 AM •••

No. Here's the Complete Monster thread if you really want to make your case (please read the FAQ first), but I can assure you that the thread will not take someone from Family Guy seriously. Even if they did, Evil Stewie is explicitly Made of Evil, therefore he lacks moral agency and cannot count for the trope.

Edited by chasemaddigan
ading Yes. Since: Jan, 2011
Yes.
May 13th 2013 at 5:52:58 PM •••

With regards to "Not All Dogs Go To Heaven": While I can understand people getting offended by the episode, and it was just generally awful regardless, it never said all Christians were book-burning fundamentalists. After all, Lois and Peter are Christian and while they've been shown as a lot of things, fundamentalists ain't one of them.

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Antiyonder Since: Oct, 2011
Nov 3rd 2014 at 12:10:34 PM •••

"After all, Lois and Peter are Christian and while they've been shown as a lot of things, fundamentalists ain't one of them."

Fair point, however, you have to take Meg's story into account. Rather than convincing Meg to handle her beliefs in a more levelheaded fashion, Brian seeks to convince her to abandon Christianity altogether. Not to mention that Brian (who is basically Seth's mouthpiece and is suppose to be seen in the right the whole time) fails to acknowledge that not all religious folks are book burning, athiest hating, drones.

Edited by 71.95.121.70 Phoebe and Her Unicorn thread: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16104243270A34144300
Discontent Since: May, 2012
Jun 5th 2014 at 2:39:52 AM •••

  • Unfortunate Implications:
    • The fact that anyone shown to be gay or mentally handicapped is Camp Gay or an exaggerated Down Syndrome sufferer.
    • Or despite the fact that Stewie, despite being known by everyone as "the gay baby" only has serious, episode spanning relationships with girls. Any kind of reference to relationships with boys are only used for a quick joke that holds about as much weight to the narrative as a Manitee Gag.
    • Meg deciding to stay with her abusive family feels uncomfortably like Stockholm Syndrome. That this is treated as a good and heroic thing makes it seem downright creepy. Not to mention "They abuse me because they can't cope without me" is almost exactly how someone with Stockholm's thinks (or someone in an abusive relationship).
    • "Quagmire's Baby" has Lois state that it's Quagmire's responsibility to look after the baby, likewise the note in the basket says that it's now his problem because he didn't wear a condom. At no point does anyone call out the mother for deciding to callously abandon it the moment it was born, simply to spite Quagmire.
    • "Herpe the Love Sore" has the implication that serving in the Army gives you every right to act like a total dick to everyone. Everyone will still respect you in spite of it.

Removed these, as citation is required for Unfortunate Implications.

ArcadesSabboth Since: Oct, 2011
Sep 9th 2012 at 7:52:45 PM •••

I removed this entry: it's a link to a disambiguation page. Before restoring it, please figure out whether it's Canon Discontinuity, Fanon Discontinuity, or Negative Continuity and change it to the correct trope name.

  • Discontinuity: The name of this trope was used for a basic cutaway joke in "Dial Meg For Murder."

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