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LtFedora Since: Aug, 2011
Apr 19th 2023 at 10:18:51 AM •••

Considering how huge the page has become, I wonder if we should split it into two, with each one covering half of the European war.

LtFedora Since: Aug, 2011
Jan 31st 2016 at 11:21:26 AM •••

Considering Operation Valkyrie was a very specific part of the war, should we give it its own section as well?

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JulianLapostat Since: Feb, 2014
Jan 31st 2016 at 11:52:22 AM •••

Own separate page, you mean!

Well these pages cover overall military conflicts, the Valkyrie operation was an assassination/planned coup d'etat. Leaving aside its failure, its goals and effects are totally political. So if you want you can add it to the main Nazi Germany page.

All the Valkyrie failed assassination achieved was that it strengthened Hitler's supporters and kept him in power to the end, with no one daring to depose him after that.

LtFedora Since: Aug, 2011
Jan 31st 2016 at 12:23:05 PM •••

Yes, page!

We may be able to put it into a page about the German resistance as well, with White Rose, the other numerous assassination plots, etc.

JulianLapostat Since: Feb, 2014
Jan 31st 2016 at 12:44:48 PM •••

A broad page on the various Resistance movements would be good. You can add Stauffenberg and his boys alongside Sophie Scholl, the Polish Resistance, the Danish who protected their Jews, the Italian partigiano, the French Resistance and the Dutch Resistance.

The other problem with making a separate page for Valkyrie is that quite simply, these pages are for events that are widely covered in media. The July Plot has one big Hollywood film and that's it...it was a rather obscure event, outside Germany, until Tom Cruise paid attention to it.

MAI742 Since: Oct, 2009
Jan 31st 2016 at 6:32:21 PM •••

We would have to have a page on Cooperation/Collaboration as well, not least because there was far more of it.

There are a number of organizations which didn't fit either bill, however. For instance, the Ukrainian OUN fought both sides and all the ethnic Poles it could lay its hands on.

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JulianLapostat Since: Feb, 2014
Jan 31st 2016 at 7:03:30 PM •••

I think we can cover Resistance from the margins, we can discuss collaboration as well. It's absolutely true that the Resistance was a minority, that Les Collaborateurs outnumbered them numerically.

MAI742 Since: Oct, 2009
Jul 22nd 2015 at 1:03:09 AM •••

Just how many images can this page have before it's too big?

And just how good do we want these images to be? It's great that schoolchildren are making presentations about military operations, but there are a lot of them out there.

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JulianLapostat Since: Feb, 2014
Jul 22nd 2015 at 1:40:26 AM •••

There are limits on picture size, like pixel size, so that means that the image can't be too big or detailed, it has be something that conveys what's in it in a small bit. This isn't wikipedia where you can click and access the bigger image. So detailed maps are not too interesting in my view. I'd say choose one emblematic image and leave it at that.

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