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Anddrix Since: Oct, 2014

Oct 21st 2020 at 3:56:10 PM •••

According to the Is This An Example thread the following example...

* Again downplayed for the follow-up film, The Empire Strikes Back for similar reasons. Many critics still did not know what to make of it. But many other critics (who had liked the previous film instead of dismissing the series as junk) and most fans thought it was an Even Better Sequel, if not just as good, due to factors like the character development of the leads, the new characters such as Yoda and Lando Calrissian, and the new locations such as Hoth, Dagobah, and Cloud City. It became the top-grossing film of 1980, and the second highest-grossing film of all time, behind only the original film. Like the original film, it was also re-released several times in movie theaters, and it also won Best Film at the People's Choice Awards. In later years, after more Star Wars films were released, most critics and fans alike would consider it the high point of not only its trilogy but of the franchise, making it the best Star Wars film, period.

Ever since the prequels and especially the sequels, a pervasive myth that Empire was divisive on release has been making the rounds. The evidence speaks for itself on the contrary. While there were some who preferred A New Hope for being self-contained, the response was hardly divisive to the point of dislike and disillusionment as later films would actually create. While Empire did throw everybody for a loop with its cliffhanger climax and ending, with the looming conflicts unresolved, Han's fate uncertain and Vader being revealed as Luke's father, people couldn't wait for the next one. This sort of thing simply wasn't done at the time, or hadn't been done in many years.

...needs some rewritting.

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benandorf Since: Jun, 2016

Nov 30th 2017 at 1:11:49 PM •••

The line about the Star Wars prequels getting a new view from fans is questionable; the pro-prequel articles online started showing up suspiciously soon after Disney bought the franchise, and with viral/guerilla marketing on the rise... seems more likely to be a case of Disney shoring up their investment with some PR than a film actually being vindicated by history.

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DaFlabbagasta Since: May, 2016

Nov 30th 2017 at 2:22:09 PM •••

Jesus Christ. I just looked at the YMMV page for the franchise as a whole, and sure enough, there's a post about the prequels having been vindicated there, too. Posts like these have had to be removed several times now. I get that the movies might not attract the same level of vitriol that they used to, but claiming that they have been in any way "vindicated" is downright absurd.

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tlz444 Since: Jun, 2016

Jun 29th 2016 at 1:36:41 PM •••

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indiana_Jones_and_the_Temple_of_Doom

The film was released to financial success but mixed reviews, which criticized its violence, later contributing to the creation of the PG-13 rating. However, critical opinion has improved since 1984, citing the film's intensity and imagination

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tlz444 Since: Jun, 2016

Jun 29th 2016 at 1:29:49 PM •••

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blade_Runner#Critical_reception

Blade Runner initially polarized critics: some were displeased with the pacing, while others enjoyed its thematic complexity

Blade Runner is now regarded by many critics as one of the best science fiction films ever made.

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dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar Since: May, 2010

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May 7th 2016 at 7:17:21 PM •••

I removed this entry:

Speed Racer. When it was released in 2008, it was a critical and commercial flop. Now, it is becoming a cult classic, with many now calling it underrated, one of the most faithful adaptations ever, and groundbreaking in terms of visuals. Later films such as Scott Pilgrim, TRON: Legacy, and Sucker Punch would also use inspiration for their visuals from the film.

Firstly, cult-classic means nothing. Movies like The Birdemic and The Room is also considered cult classics as well as some of the worst movies of all time.

Also, where's the evidence for this film's influence on other movies?

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