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What's the correct trope for the fact that while Lucian has an actual Chinese name in-game, he is most commonly referred to as "Obama" by the Chinese scene, from casters to players.
Reading over the massive trope page that League of Legends has, I think it could use a fair bit of trimming. For example, there are a lot of character tropes that only pertain to certain or very few characters. Should those tropes not be move to their respective character's pages? Likewise, there's a lot of item tropes that could be moved to item pages, and a lot of tropes that sport expansive lists and large descriptions. It seems rather daunting, even for someone like myself that's spent many hours on wiki walks around the site.
I would like to trim, edit, and recataloge the page a bit, but I don't want to do it if it'll mess something up. Anyone else thing this page could use a little cleaning?
I understand that there used to be a page focused on the items of League. If it isn't still here (I can't find it), I think it should certainly be reinstated. Since the overhaul of the lore and the grand retconning away of Summoners and the League proper, a number of items have gotten lore directed at them as powerful Runeterran artifacts, particularly the Blade of the Ruined King. This lore manifests as champion quotes when the item is bought, subtle mentions in lore, etc.
I think it should come back. It can not only describe the usefulness of an item from a gameplay perspective, but also give some context on the lore surrounding the item.
Sort of going off of what Arcane Azmadi said, perhaps maybe we should reformat the Professional Gaming page and create a page summarizing League's professional scene. Perhaps it's because I just don't know as much about other e-sports to gauge their size, but it seems professional League is getting crazy big now for e-sports standards and might warrant some expansion. If you look at Professional Gaming right at the moment, it doesn't have its own category, doesn't really explain any of the popular leagues; all it really does is list off popular teams and short blurbs about certain players (some of which are also outdated as hell).
Unlike Arcane Azmadi, I don't think giving tropes to certain players or tropes in a real-life setting is appropriate; but just giving it a sort of explanation/summary in general, ala the Association Football page. I'd do it myself, but I'm wondering if LCS/OGN/LCK/whatever are really THAT big enough to warrant a writeup. Thoughts?
Does anyone think we need a separate page for LoL's out-of-game content i.e Riot staff, pro players and teams, major community members like SivHD and so on? It could be a place where we could put tropes like Pungeon Master and Butt-Monkey for Phreak, Arrogant Kung-Fu Guy for Doublelift, The Dreaded for Faker etc without further cluttering up this already overloaded page.
...nobody thinks this is a good idea...?
We're not really interested in troping real life.
Oh really? So why are there so many pages about things like... Australia, Keanu Reeves, Lolita Fashion, Christianity, Adolf Hitler, Wars of the Roses, Christmas in America, the Japanese Space Program, The Great Depression, The BBC and countless other "real life" topics?
Also, just to make my point a little clearer, I was inspired to suggest this partly by the presence of the Star Craft Multiplayer page, and partly because it was considered worthwhile to give Moviebob an entire subindex recording every movie he ever talked about, so it's hardly entirely unprecedented.
Yes, and most of these are far more relevant to tropes than what is being proposed here.
Wait, seriously? We made a separate page for the game's Items but you think a page on the game's massive pro gaming scene and other meta aspects is irrelevant?!
Logic. How does it work?
Frankly, the game's items pages should probably go as well and be folded back into the main article.
A subpage is a different topic than an article (which is the things you are mentioning above) - if there is a subpage, there surely is a main page as well and one needs to examine whether the subpage is really needed.
Plus, all out of game content would fall under Trivia or YMMV usually.
Hi Arcane. There is already a section on the game's massive pro scene at Professional Gaming, you can help update it if you please.
Should we make some folders? There certainly is alot of tropes...
Yep, that is a long example section. Go ahead and folderize it.
Query: Should a Fanon page be added for League of Legends? There's certainly enough common traits and tropes in most people's fanon that a page for it might be viable.
That and there's far, far too much Fanon to put in the YMMV section.
Well, there is nothing yet regarding Fanon on the YMMV tab, so I would add first material there. If it gets too large it can be split off.
I think the reason for that is because there's just far too much to add, I mean if we go for fanon for each champion, ad there's 119 (120 now with Gnar) champions, that's at the least over 100 entries.
There is a difference between "so much could be added" and "so much will be added". For page splitting purposes, we primarily care about the latter number - it's often one or more orders of magnitude below the former, since TV Tropes has covered only a small fraction of all possible works and Audience Reactions in the world.
This is gonna be fun adding all off those entries to the Fanon section.
Just as a note, Fanon is also in the Trivia page. Merge to where? YMMV or Trivia?
Fanon goes into the YMMV tab. It's not a factoid - it's a fan opinion regarding something being canon.
I've removed Bizarre Alien Biology with the Nasus and Renekton examples. They're based on Anubis and Sobek of Egyptian mythology, not aliens. The same applies to some other characters in Lo L.
What would be the appropriate trope to list their odd parentage then?
To be clear, their official lore makes it very clear that they are aliens:
They may be based off Anubis and Sobek, but canonically they're aliens.
This trope was redefined and renamed. A game now needs to specifically have 6 or more separate species available in character/team creation to count as an example. I don't know the game, so I moved the example here until it can be verified for the new definition.
All of the above have at least one champion, and each is an entirely separate race, even leaving out one-off characters like Evelynn of unknown race.
At what point do you think we should split off the character pages again? They're getting rather long for character pages; they're about twice as long as most of the other character pages I have on my watchlist. The A-H/I-P/Q-Z split also isn't exactly square anymore, with the middle range ending up significantly longer than the other two. To achieve a more balanced distribution, I'd suggest splitting them as such:
From the YMMV page...
Really? Where is this "everyone" who complains the game is too colorful? The main people I've seen call this game casual are Defense Of The Ancients fans, and those people obviously have no problem with playing a colorful game. Until specific examples are given of people calling the game casual because it is colorful and stylized, I refuse to let this back on.
And don't even get me started on "Unfortunate Implications". Yes, calling a game casual because it is too colorful is stupid; it hardly belongs in the same league as most of the other stuff labeled as "Unfortunate Implications" on this wiki.
Could someone reword the Death is Cheap entry? I'm not sure if the trope is even applicable with the game, since while people die and come back a lot, dying directly correlates with losing the game, not because of what you lose when you die but because how much it buffs the enemy gold and experience wise. There's a reason why the term "feeding" is so commonly used.
So dying is in fact bloody expensive.
There used to be a link to the character pages. Where did it go?
Edit: Answered my own questions *facepalm*
Since the -1 HP from Conservation Of Ninjutsu are being mentioned:
Leona's passive, Sunlight, deals 1 less damage to heroes wearing sunglasses. Also, Nidalee ("Aspect Of The Cougar") grants +5 experience to lower-level males in her vincinity when leveling up.
"Suppression (which is effectively Stun, but is unable to be removed by anything other than Quicksilver Sash)."
- or EATING ORANGES!
The Monkey King entry in WMG is completely invalid. The monkey king has been released, and none of the points included are correct or relevant anymore. Is anyone against removing it?
Cut this out from Xanatos Gambit. For one thing, it's flat-out wrong; Eve was "wrecked" (losing a lot of power, including trading in her deadly stun for a simple slow) because she was frustrating enough in her present incarnation that she was causing new players to actually quit the game.
Should LoL have its own Shout-Out page? Almost every champion has a skin or a quote that is a reference to something else, and some, like Lux or Mordekaiser, have several.
That's probably a good idea. The Shout-Out entry has over twenty lines, including the vague "Basically every champion's joke is a Shout-Out".
How about making a community page? There's leaguecraft, lol fora, solomid, mobafire, numerous and numerous youtube channels.
I support this idea.
Out of curiosity, what genre should we classify this under? Currently, it's just strategy which feels a bit odd, but... well, it's rather vague in general.
The developers classify the game as a 'MOBA' - Multiplayer Online Battle Arena. That Other Wiki has an entry on MOBA and links to League of Legends, Do TA, Demigod, Heroes of Newerth and Bloodline Champions as examples of the genre. I'd classify League of Legends and the other games listed as MOBA games since it has become a distinct genre on it's own.
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