I just think to say it's a big loss is not that accurate, since Claude is perfectly willing to surrender peacefully, and he's got another nation to rule as a back up. I honestly don't feel like he's bitter over losing the Alliance since he prepared just in case Edelgard won.
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Yeah, I'll give my reason for adding this example:
I felt like this was necessary to add because, while most of the examples in the Black Eages tab which relate to Claude talk about his grief over Judith and his classmate's deaths, or how Claude can die, no one mentioned how sparing Claude is arguably just as sad. After all, now he'll have to live with their deaths being effectively in vain, since he loses anyway. Additionally, we see both on his and Dimitri's routes that he's saddened by every death that happens in the war, even Edelgard's, so it's not hard to imagine how those of his comrades would weigh even harder on him.
The tear-jerker, to me, is that Claude doesn't get a happy ending no matter what.
What does everyone else think?
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Claude does get a happy ending if spared, he's likely going back to Almyra, becoming king, has a chance to make better relations with the home of his mother, since Edelgard isn't racist and is willing to open up borders. Sure he's grieving obviously, but as his actor Joe Zieja notes, he has a sort of detachment towards war, in a sense of " Hey what can you do? " and despite grieving, he never takes things personally ever, sure part of him might be bitter, but he at least understands that Edelgard and Byleth have good intentions since he did prepare a scenario for them sparing him and is shocked if they don't. So overall, he lost the battle, but he will ensure the deaths were not in vain, and will win the peace.
Also i'd like to add because of this, i realized how much of a genius Claude is in Crimson flowers, since he basically achieves his ending in Golden Deers but with Edelgard as the leader of Fodlan, not Byleth.
Edited by RedHunter543 I'll teach you a lesson about just how cruel the world can be. That's my job, as an adult.
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I'm putting this here so we can discuss this instead of having an edit war. I deleted this entry:
- Adding to the tragedy of the war is the fact that, unlike in other Fire Emblem titles where the war was inevitable despite some of the protagonists trying to reason with the villains, Three Houses goes out of its way to show you that, if Edelgard, Dimitri and Claude had chosen to talk during their days as students, the whole thing might have been averted.
On the grounds that it mischaracterizes the game's conflict. Edelgard was trying to kill Claude and Dimitri from the very start. It was never about her distrusting them; she spends the whole game working with the Slitherguys, who she doesn't trust one bit, so it's not as if she won't ally with people she doesn't trust. Edelgard going against Claude and Dimitri was never about whether she trusted them or not. Edelgard believes that the Empire rightfully owns all of Fódlan. She believes that territories broke away from the Empire solely as some evil plot by the Church, and are thus their existence as separate countries is illegitimate. Claude and Dimitri, as the future heads of those countries, are thus obstacles to her having the power she believes she should rightfully have. The argument for re-adding the entry did not acknowledge Edelgard's plots against them, or that Edelgard's plan always involved destroying any power structure in Fódlan that wasn't subservient to her.
It's also not accurate to say that Dimitri's only mad at her because he wrongfully blames her for the Tragedy at Duscur. As the Flame Emperor, she's responsible for or involved with multiple bandit attacks, Flayn's kidnapping, turning multiple students into demonic beasts, trying to steal the Sword of the Creator, and plundering the Crest Stones in the Holy Tomb. Even if Dimitri is wrong about Edelgard's involvment in that particular incident, he has no reason to see Edelgard as anything but an enemy after finding out that she's the Flame Emperor.
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Edited by RedHunter543 I'll teach you a lesson about just how cruel the world can be. That's my job, as an adult.
So there is a bit of conflict over this part of the text * No matter what ending ultimately befalls Claude on the Crimson Flower route, he will not be spared some tragedy. It's very probable that his old classmates and friends, such as Ignatz, Leonie, and especially Hilda, will die by your hands, unless you go out of your way to recruit/spare them. It's impossible to proceed on this route without killing Judith, who may as well be a second mother to him. Despite his nonchalant attitude and promise to repay your "kindness," it's not hard to imagine these things are masks to hide a deep bitterness for all you've destroyed to win.
Right, i've made my feelings on it quite clear, anyone have any thoughts on this?
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