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Apr 12th 2013 at 4:17:55 AM •••

To me, I thought everyone was being more of a jerk than usual in this episode.

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Apr 12th 2013 at 7:26:39 AM •••

I know...it's just annoyng how some fans only call out Fluttershy (only) for her jerkassery, and forget the fact that everyone else was too. That's why I wrote what I wrote.

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Apr 12th 2013 at 7:31:17 AM •••

Well, I personally snigger at people who claim Gilda crossed the Moral Event Horizon by making Fluttershy cry, while if this episode is a window into how the townsfolk treat her normally, then Gilda comes across as comparatively tame.

Mar 6th 2012 at 7:23:28 AM •••

Does anyone else think that the BGM during Pinkie and Rarity's visit to Fluttershy's cottage while it's boarded up sounds a lot like the music when Nightmare Moon returns?

Mar 4th 2012 at 9:57:46 PM •••

Besides "What Have I Become?" Fluttershy probably asked herself during her "Jerkass Realization" moment "My God, What Have I Done?" as well when she drove Rarity and Pinkie Pie to tears. It's not long before her rage-filled reflection softens and tears up. This was one case where both questions come into play as she felt the assertiveness become aggressiveness, and the "Flutterwitch" side cast some evil aura on the other two.

Though given how much she was pushed around, it wasn't until she was given the training with Iron Will that Flutter-not-shy decided she wasn't going to put up with the grief anymore.

Like the saying went, "You pushed me too far...now I Push BACK!" So Fluttershy wasn't going to let bad/rude people push her.

Only problem was, she got Pushed to the other end of the emotional spectrum and liked it too much—until she saw how Jerkass she'd become.

So when she tells Iron Will she ISN'T satisfied, she's not lying, seeing how much it hurt her with Rarity and Pinkie. Iron Will talks it over with his goats, and realizes as she's honest, going aggresive on her would only hurt his image (who wants to pay a guy who can't hold his temper, even if he teaches how to be able to be assertive?). So looking at how she handled the situation with a calm demeanor and honesty, without flinching, had him rethink some of what he had to do.

Didn't hurt she used the stares and glares with Angel Bunny, so the bad bunny got to know Fluttershy wasn't going to let him get away with griefing her. Good move in this troper's opinion.

Mar 4th 2012 at 1:13:15 PM •••

Who was the voice of Iron Will? I keep thinking I know it from somewhere and my friends and I have speculated it might be the same VA for Hercule in the American dub of DBZ.

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Mar 4th 2012 at 9:53:09 PM •••

I dont know where to say it, But I think Fluttershy pulled a Break the Cutie on HERSELF when she looked in the puddle and realized SHE was becoming a monster.

Mar 3rd 2012 at 10:15:48 PM •••

I think this was a prequel episode. Twilight is missing and it seems like Fluttershy becomes about as assertive as she usually is after the episode is over. She wasn't known for being a total doormat before, in particular in Dragonshy and The Stare Master. I think what happened in those episodes reflected what she learned in this one.

She writes a Celestia letter, but it could easily just be a recap she recalled.

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Mar 3rd 2012 at 10:26:38 PM •••

Or, Occam's Razor, Twilight Sparkle just isn't in this episode. =P

Mar 3rd 2012 at 6:42:54 PM •••

I thought Word of God confirmed Pinkie Pie WAS winking and grinning at the audience.

Mar 3rd 2012 at 5:04:40 PM •••

Iron Will seems to be able to speak goat language. Would that qualify as The Doctor Dolittle trope, and would it be played with, subverted or played straight?

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Mar 3rd 2012 at 5:15:28 PM •••

I don't know, given that the goats seem sentient, it may be the Iron Will goats simply can't speak Equestrian.

Mar 3rd 2012 at 8:55:13 PM •••

It probably falls under Intelligible Unintelligible. Iron Will's goat assistants are obviously sentient, as stated above, but don't speak Equestrian.

Mar 3rd 2012 at 3:55:42 PM •••

New!Fluttershy's leitmotif is a Jimmy Hart Version of a song. I can't remember what it's called, though.

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