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XFllo There is no Planet B Since: Aug, 2012
There is no Planet B
Jun 17th 2019 at 2:20:52 PM •••

Removed from the page:

Big Damn Villains was split into two tropes: Villainous Rescue and Villains Do The Dirty Work. From the description I can't quite tell which of the tropes fit. Please feel free to add the correct one to the recap page.

cattouchdis Since: Dec, 2011
May 1st 2012 at 7:09:28 PM •••

The Doctor is around 903 or so years old, Rory has the memories of the 2000 years he guarded the Pandorica, so is he technically older than the Doctor?

superdewd2 Since: May, 2011
Aug 27th 2011 at 3:01:26 PM •••

Steven Moffat has recently said the title for this episode was also secretly a dirty joke about what happened on Amy and Rory's wedding night. can't remember the exact name of the trope so if anyone else knows feel free to add it.

tictactoejam Since: Dec, 1969
Apr 30th 2011 at 12:15:54 PM •••

Amy is saved from the Pandorica by her younger self. After "our" Amy emerges from the box, she proceeds to immediately pat her younger self on the head. Could someone please explain to me how the hell this is not a paradox? What happened to those monsters that appeared when Rose met herself in the first season? They could have atleast just made sure she never actually touched...herself...

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MatthewTheRaven Since: Jun, 2009
May 21st 2011 at 1:45:48 AM •••

The multiverse fucking collapsed, wiping out everything but an insane, twisted version of Earth. The reapers were gone by that point, or gorging themselves on all the other paradoxes in the cosmos.

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skadydkssk Since: Aug, 2010
Jun 21st 2011 at 12:05:27 AM •••

That Amy was an alternate universe Amy, so our Amy had no problem touching her. Basically, our Amy is the Amy in the universe with stars, and little Amy is the Amy in the universe without stars.

redjirachi Since: Aug, 2010
Apr 4th 2011 at 10:51:55 PM •••

Why do people assume what occured was a Class Z Apocalypse?Class Z means the destruction of all existence.The Doctor said "the universe will have never existed at all."Not a bunch of universes,not the entire multiverse,just "the universe."The other realities would've been fine.If anything,it's a Class X-5(every moment of the Whoniverse' history being removed,sans the Earth)

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NOYB Since: Sep, 2009
May 5th 2011 at 4:27:03 PM •••

Because the Cybermen said "all timelines will be deleted".

redjirachi Since: Aug, 2010
May 21st 2011 at 1:10:49 AM •••

That's all fine and dandy,but it doesn't explain how a second Big Bang is capable of rebooting The Multiverse. At best,it would reboot all universes related to the Whoniverse via the many-worlds interpetation. Yet how could unrelated universes like the DCU and ours be restored?

MatthewTheRaven Since: Jun, 2009
May 21st 2011 at 1:43:56 AM •••

Is there any reason to believe that the DCU even exists within Doctor Who's continuity? Only universes related to the Whoniverse exist within its narrative, and its writers are not obligated to explain how, say, the continuity of the Kool-Aid Man's promotional comics fit into the whole thing.

redjirachi Since: Aug, 2010
Jun 5th 2011 at 3:54:32 PM •••

So if Class Z dictates the destruction of every universe wihthin the narrative, what class dictates the destruction of every universe, period?

Michael So that's what this does Since: Jan, 2001
So that's what this does
Jun 26th 2010 at 5:16:08 PM •••

In the question of who remembers what,

After he asks how they could have forgotten the Doctor, groom!Rory comments on having been plastic, so he remembers some of his auton life at least.

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onesmallpigeon Since: Feb, 2010
Sep 28th 2010 at 8:43:00 AM •••

Er- is groom!Rory still an Auton? I can't quite figure it out. I realize everything has gone back to normal, so he should be human, but if he remembers.... ?

NOYB Since: Sep, 2009
May 5th 2011 at 4:28:34 PM •••

Everyone got their memories back. He has memories of being an Auton because he had his real mind when he was an Auton, thanks to the crack in Amy's wall making her memories special.

62.31.215.16 Since: Dec, 1969
Jun 26th 2010 at 3:34:03 PM •••

Old New Borrowed and Blue practically called by name - The TARDIS

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tictactoejam Since: Dec, 1969
Apr 30th 2011 at 12:18:45 PM •••

Do you have a point here, or do you just like that bit?

ShayGuy Since: Jan, 2001
Nov 10th 2010 at 1:03:29 PM •••

I removed the Pot Hole to Wham Line from the Dalek's plea for mercy after some reflection. When River gives her previous line, she's got an I-know-something-you-don't-know smile suggesting that she knows if the Dalek looks her up, it'll find something (or multiple somethings) to make it rethink what it had said about her showing mercy. And before that, it was established that the Dalek was at her mercy. So when she says, "Check your records again," the viewer can guess that the Dalek won't like what it finds or be as confident afterwards.

It's still very impressive, but there's enough non-ambiguous buildup toward it that it doesn't qualify as a Wham Line.

76.180.174.88 Since: Dec, 1969
Aug 4th 2010 at 5:00:54 PM •••

I know it's coincidental, but the keeping people existent by remembering them through time compression reminds me of Final Fantasy VIII.

Tranquility Since: Apr, 2010
Jun 27th 2010 at 4:36:06 AM •••

The WMG surrounding Amy's Dad based on the name of his actor being mis-spelled "Helco" Johnston (instead of "Halcro") is just hilarious. A salutary lesson for us all on the perils of WMG based on the flimsiest of evidence. It could almost be a trope in itself — it's more than just Jossed, it was 'Jossed By Typo'.

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