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Feb 3rd 2018 at 2:20:59 AM •••

Why do (almost) all the Playing With examples explicitely mention a third party when the trope's description does not? For example, does Alucard and Integra's relationship in Hellsing count as (a twisted) Courtly Love? Alucard is proud of being her "dog", her servant, of carrying out her every order, and anyone bad-mouthing her is sure to piss him off; in their closest moments they refer to each other as 'Count' and 'Countess' (or Count-Count in japanese, either way, it expresses they are equals); she waited 30 year for him and he killed millions of lives and chose to be where she was (and that chapter was called "Romancia"); all while never even trying to make the relationship physical or changing it from the Master-Servant dynamic (at least on-screen). The most 'explicit' we could say about it was Alucard's comment that her orders cause 'a stirring in (his) loins' and asking her if the mayhem he caused for her 'excited' her.

Dec 4th 2011 at 11:47:33 PM •••

What is described in the is not platonic love. It is simply romantic love without physical actions and letting the world know of the love.

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Aug 7th 2012 at 7:33:08 AM •••

Im not clear, are you saying the page should be describing platonic love and isn't, or is describing that and shouldn't be? I don't think this trope is meant to be "platonic love". It's an outlet for romantic feelings in a world of strictly formalised marital arrangements.

From the trope: "The difference between Courtly Love and Unresolved Sexual Tension is, Courtly Love is supposed to be satisfying in itself because of the mix of the romantic and spiritual. Even when it was popular, it didn't always work that way; Lancelot's love for Guinevere started as Courtly Love but developed into a different sort of affair."

From the other wiki: "Since at the time marriage had little to do with love, courtly love was also a way for nobles to express the love not found in their marriage. "Lovers" in the context of courtly love did not refer to sex, but rather the act of emotional loving. These "lovers" had short trysts in secret, which escalated mentally, but never physically."

Edited by johnnye
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