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Moved this here, because it was becoming a natter-magnet. Could someone with knowledge about genetics help with the example?
Keep them pulled. The points here are:
A: Diversity is bad for scientific study
B: Humans shouldn't be that much more diverse.
However, given what we know, we kind of just have to assume that it's true. Point A is only accurate for certain types of studies, but the opposite is accurate for others. Point B was have to assume is true because they said it is. We don't have any information on alien diversity, what with them being, you know, aliens and fictional. So we have to take their word for it.
Removing this, it's verbal ticks and thread-mode. The applicable parts of this can be reworded and re-added under the new trope, The Usual Adversaries.
Can we take a vote or something on use of The Force? This edit war is driving me crazy. I vote no; being "inspired" by something is not the same as actually using the trope.
The purpose of TV Tropes is not simply to describe or characterize works of fiction, but to dissect them and deconstruct motivations, influences and subtexts. Biotics in the context of Mass Effect do not seem to have been included solely because they made sense within the universe. There is a clear inspiration being drawn from the usage of the force in Star Wars. But even discarding the possibility of including inspirations in the examples, to which I disagree, there is a case for the usage of the trope itself. Of course it lacks morality overtones non-existent in the verse (note: arguably, some material in the Star Wars's EU kind of blur the clear-cut light side and dark side manichaeism), BUT: 1) It requires living beings — we never see any technology doing something similar to what biotics do. Given the enormous military potential of what biotics are able to do, we should be seeing biotic guns everywhere. Why don't we? 2) It flings people and things all over the place. 3) Justicars are somewhat similar to the Jedi. In fact, force-sensitives seem to be viewed with the same eyes as people with biotic abilities - that is, they are seen as wizards of sorts, subtle and powerful in more ways than meet the eye. 4) The Mass Effect series is known for shouting out to lots of things and drawing inspiration from a lot of places. These do not diminish the work. And that seems to be the implication behind the constant deletion of this entry.
For these reasons I believe this is not a simple, clear cut use of telekinesis. There is much more going on behind bioticism than that, giving social implications that, though amoral, resemble what Star Wars gave us with the original force.
One of the problems is you seem to be of the opinion of I want this on the page, too bad if everyone else doesn't. Which is a shame, really. What a waste. I'm sure you could have been an excellent contributer to the site, but sadly because you cannot seem to grasp the concept of rules about edit warring we are not going to be able to be shown your brilliant insight.
The problem I see is: nobody is giving an actual reason for "not wanting" it on the page. It feels terribly like whim, on the implication that this is somehow a ripoff of Star Wars, which is something I never said. Perhaps there is a way to word the text of the entry that avoids this insinuation, but the thing is I don't understand what is the problem that people have with the entry. It should at the very least be something that readers can make their own minds about, and I see no reason at all to outright axe it.
The reason is because, well, This isn't the trope you're looking for. I can understand what you are trying to say but as it stands saying biotics are Force powers and Justicars are Jedi is closer to a stretched Shout-Out than describing The Force. Convince us that it applies and we'd be happy to have it up.
To put it another way, kernedge, read the page on The Force. It isn't about references to the Star Wars use of the force, or some mystical ability that gives magic powers in a sci-fi setting. It's the idea of a pervasive 'force' of goodness, somewhat like a deity, that promotes harmony between all living things.
Biotics are not an example of the trope The Force therefore, the trope should not be on the page. The trope The Force is not identical to the concept from Star Wars. Please read the page and don't add bad examples. Those are against the site rules. The trope The Force is "Lifeforce as power." Biotics are not an example of "Lifeforce as power."
Also, your assertion that technology can't do similar things to biotics is completely wrong. Biotics is just manipulation of mass effect fields by a person. A bunch of technology works by manipulating mass effect fields, like faster-than-light space travel, gravity generators, shields, and guns. There is no requirement that living beings be involved somehow. The only thing needed is element zero.
Indeed the use of the trope does not properly fit. There are some secondary characteristics in the force description that very very very loosely could apply but that would be quite the stretch. There are a plethora of other tropes that can readily apply to Mass Effect Fields.
"The trope The Force is not identical to the concept from Star Wars"
You are completely right, that was what got me confused. I am sorry for the trouble I caused, which was quite a lot. Serves me right for diagonally reading an entry before adding examples. I assumed the trope *maker* for The Force was The Force from Star Wars, and it is quite unintuitive that it is actually not even an example of the trope! I just made a fool of myself.
Would you consider this a valid example of Background Magic Field? I think it carries the meaning I thought of when I tried to add the entry (maybe making it less specific to gravity, since gravity can do all sorts of magical things in the ME universe). In fact, someone mentioned in the discussion page regarding the change of the name of The Force that Background Magic Field should have gotten that name instead.
@Jerrik: Yes, but we never see technology doing quite the same as biotics do. Biotics are valuable and special, like wizards, which kind of implies that their skill and versatility cannot, at that time, be duplicated by technology, despite the myriad technological applications of mass effect fields.
This is a valid thing to list on the trope page, just as a Shout-Out to Star Wars.
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