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Linking to a past Trope Repair Shop thread that dealt with this page: What's the point of the trope as it stands?, started by RhymeBeat on Nov 3rd 2010 at 7:40:51 PM
This article apparently is locked and not allowing edits. Can someone with admin rights add the following? It's not a specific example but I do feel it is applicable and true. Thanks.
Long-Runners are particularly prone to this.
Would this trope also apply to critics that the work's creators are trying to appeal to, even if the critics may not be fans themselves?
Not my intention to enforce political correctness, but maybe the page quote could be from someone other than Bill Cosby?
You might want to bring it up in the quotes forum
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIgSTjzrmRg might make a good page quote.
The page quote does lose a lot of its merit now that Cosby turned out to be such a monster & I do like that link someone posted.
Agreed. It's morally wrong having the quote be from a convicted sex offender.
I think there should be a few restricted example given. While I agree that, especially in SF fandom, it's impossible to please everyone, there have been fandoms where displeasure - and the apparent inability to find consensus - are actually well documented. Star Trek, of course (reaching its climax in 2000-2005 era when the TV franchise collapsed), plus Doctor Who and Star Wars come to mind. The trick, though, is finding examples that aren't just a case of fans disliking a particular episode, plot twist or character. For example, many people hated the ending of The Sopranos but they loved everything else and would hardly be called an unpleasable fanbase just because the ending let them down. On the other hand, by the late 1990s it had become impossible for Star Trek to please the majority of its fans without basically becoming a clone of another show (and people were calling on Trek to become more like Firefly and the BSG revival near the end. Funnily enough, when they did retool the concept for the new movies, a lot of these same fans hated it).
Ever fanbase is made up of individuals, which means that there are always going to be people who just can't be pleased. Therefore this is an omnipresent trope.
Even thought the example section is gone, I think it should be stressed that every fanbase is this trope.
I hate that this page is locked, because the "Catch-22" link directs us to the page for the book Catch-22. The link should be for the Morton's Fork page instead!
How about considering restricting examples to Unpleasable Fanbase in fiction?
Or parodies of Unpleasable Fanbase, there's a lot of material there.
I like that idea.
Why does the Bill Cosby page quote Pot Hole to You Cannot Please Everyone? It has nothing to do with secret identities!
am i irked by the fact that unpleasable isn't a word? yes. would i very much like it to be a word? yes. but is it bugging me to no end? yes.
The recursiveness of this post is making my brain asplode.
I think the fact that all the examples go on the Troper Tales page should be noted.
Is it ok to add parodies to this trope in the main page?
I don't see why not. Just remember to specify "parodied by (show name)" (or whatever) and you should be fine.
When can I add?
Ah, crap, i accidentally deleted all the examples of the article when i was trying to make a simple edit. Sorry guys. I'll try and reverse the edits, but the article got checked out for now. Again, sorry.
Looked pretty good without all that bitching and natter in the examples, actually. Let's leave it that way. It was way too long, which was causing the edit problem, anyway.
Okay then, but if anyone wants the examples back, i have the examples saved on my computer...or you could look in the edit archives.
But you got a point Fast Eddie. By the logic of the Unpleasable Fanbase, anyone will find a reason to complain about anything, which is why the page got so long. It's safe to say that any fandom will have those that will never be satisfied, no matter what happens.
On second thought, i'll just put the examples on Troper Tales. Just go put all the Unpleasable Fanbases you see there.
I am having a hard time finding it :(. What is troper tales anyways?
Troper Tales was a system by which people could explain how a trope had happened in their life. They were removed from the wiki on the 15th of August last year. This was because they were irrelevant, sometimes creepy, and encouraged natter and other poor habits. An archive of them is here.
How the hell do you manage to delete every last example when you were going to make a "simple" edit.
Sometimes people have connection errors which result in only part of the page saving. This is particularly common on large pages if the page has to load section by section. They usually wipe out the second half of the page or so, whatever edit the person was trying to make, and in this case it appears that they removed all the examples.
This page is rapidly getting out of control. I tried removing some of the Natter, whining, ALL CAPS and long, content-less lists, but I barely scratched the surface.
Blech. This is pretty awful. I took my usual ham-handed approach and deleted a great deal of things just to be safe, since people tend to be scared to touch pages when they get this big. If anyone wants to re-add things I suggest you re-word them to be less long and/or whiny.
Thanks. I was trying to be conservative with what I axed, so I probably missed a lot. I'll do the other sections later today.
I have removed the image from the page, because it was unclear exactly how it related to the trope. If someone feels could explain how it demonstrates this trope, please feel free to re-add the image or comment here.
What was the image in question?
The picture in question◊.
I agree with the removal, as this is a pretty clear case of Just A Face And A Caption.
The Comic Book Guy is memetic enough that I think he still fits, although he'd probably be a better fit for Ruined FOREVER.
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