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Aug 22nd 2014 at 5:37:50 PM •••

I am curious about something. Does it count as this trope if they ARE villainous?

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Aug 23rd 2014 at 1:46:16 AM •••

Nah, the Revolution we are talking here is usually the positively portrayed one, at least at the beginning.

Sep 6th 2014 at 9:01:22 PM •••

Yes, but the key word is USUALLY. Also, several examples in here are clearly evil. One example is Bane and his revolution in The Dark Knight Rises: clearly evil revolutionaries.

I think this trope could also includes examples of evil revolutionaries.

Apr 9th 2011 at 12:55:29 AM •••

Someone should add Libya to the Real-Life examples on this. The current Revolution over there is NOT very Civil.

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Aug 4th 2014 at 10:10:13 PM •••

Very rare a revolution is, which is probably one of the reasons there's no Real Life section, better to not point fingers.

Aug 5th 2014 at 1:11:41 AM •••

That post was years ago, but now, the trope is listed as No Real Life Examples, Please!.

Feb 3rd 2016 at 4:56:15 AM •••

Another case of cowardice... Just like bowing to Google.

Feb 4th 2016 at 1:43:51 AM •••

Nothing to do with Google at all, actually.

Feb 22nd 2011 at 4:30:24 PM •••

The Iron Heel (literature) fits this to a "t". The socialists are basically locked in a murderous death grapple with the plutocratic authoritarian oligarchy. End result? Boot to the head, and lots of the death.

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Jan 23rd 2011 at 6:27:05 PM •••

Exmaples are not a discussion thread in a forum. Point 0 from the Tips Worksheet: "The idea is to make articles in Main look like they were written by the same person. A person with a good sense of humor, who doesn't talk about himself with 'I' or 'this troper', or get in arguments with himself, and who just corrects errors he might have made earlier without drawing attention to them. "

When replacing this on the main page, please unify the material into an example. Also: double star markup is not used for a paragraph break: see Example Indentation In Trope Lists. And we don't add paragraph breaks just beacuse it is a different author.

  • The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress. So, so much. Sometimes, when diplomacy and pamphlets and infiltration aren't enough, you just have to throw some rocks on things.
    • An aversion, surely? They go to great lengths to avoid civilian casualties (greater lengths, it may be said, than any of the Allies did in World War Two, the most recent Big War when the novel was written.)
    • It's stated in the novel that the largest civilian casualties came from rocks deflected by interceptor missiles, pushing them into landing directly on cities instead of the relatively harmless water targets they were aimed for. The bombardment plan was nearly aborted when they learned that sightseers had disbelieved the rebel's warnings, and gone to target sites to watch the 'show', and been killed.
    • On the other hand, La Résistance practices some very devious and underhanded methods in gaining public support. They willfully engage in propaganda, outright lies, fake assassinations, and other dirty tricks to get the people of Luna on their side. The Lunar Authority was unpopular, and rightfully so, but they weren't quite the villains they were made out to be.

    • According to the movie, they weren't even considered the "legitimate" resistance force. Apparently they were something of a splinter faction.

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