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"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
I feel like the video example for Blitzo’s acid trip under “I Just Want To Be Loved” would fit here as well, but I can’t seem to find any way of getting it to link here.
Has any protagonist given one of these to the Greek Gods? Like maybe Hercules, or a deity from another mythology? Heck, if I wrote Disney's Hercules, it would've included the jerkass gods, albeit toned down a bit, and Hercules delivers one of these to them, after everything he's learned on Earth.
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I think some of the protagonists of Rick Riordan’s “Percy Jackson/Heroes of Olympus/Trials of Apollo” multi-series might have come close a couple times, but I’d have to dig through the texts again to be absolutely sure.
Also, seeing Deadpool give one of these to the reader directly flabbergasted me, like "Who are you to judge me? You sword-swinging manchild!"
I think cutting the Reviewer pages was a mistake. They aren't complaining, they're reviewing, that's their job. The speech being directed at a work doesn't invalidate the example.
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Agreed. And it's even more baffling that the Reviewer pages are gone, yet the Real Life section (which is even more volatile) is still around.
There's so much I wish I could take back.
Well, they’re almost all directed at real people, whether directly or indirectly, and are thus complaining by proxy.
So is the real life section, yet we keep it because it would be weird not to, yet we're not allowed to have a reviewer section for a trope that's extremely prevalent in the medium.
Linking to a past Trope Repair Shop thread that dealt with this page: Description vs. examples
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i want to know the issue where deadpool make a "reason why you suck" speech to a renegate SHIELD agent.
Man in the Yellow Hat
The Real Life section should be cut. Read through and practically all examples violated the Rule of Cautious Editing Judgment.
There's so much I wish I could take back.
Unfortunately, we might need to consider axing the Real Life section.
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I second this. This seems like far too controversial and volatile a topic to involve in real life. There are far too many speeches that can be used for all sorts of agendas which would have no place on this wiki, so I also move for adding this to No Real Life Examples, Please!. This would also include a lot of Web Originals that involve real life disputes.
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I third this. Read through it and practically every example violated the Rule of Cautious Editing Judgment. Same goes for the Web Originals too.
There's so much I wish I could take back.
Knows-Many-Things
Wouldn't this page work out better if we had actual quotes?
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What? There are quotes everywhere.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
what about in pro-wrestling... there was a crap ton of those
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So create a page for them.
That was the amazing part. Things just keep going.
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Indexes are tempermental things. There was nothing wrong with it, but it needed a null edit to this page to make the indexing kick in.
That was the amazing part. Things just keep going.
of House Nerd
I think we should change the quote back to what was said on Avatar. It's quick and gets to the point, whereas in the current quote, Doug swears way too much (I know it's because he's passionate about the matter, but it's not exactly classy), and really, it's just way too long a quote. If you disagree, please list your reason(s).
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I agree. I'm a fan of the critic but this just makes the page look too cluttered and it doesn't get the point fast enough.
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I was just curious, what's the speech that Rock gives to Revy that supposedly almost made her cry?
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Hi wondering if anyone thinks we could have a trope about ill timed versions of these, i.e. when a speech is given to a character who usually does these thigns but for once is trying to do better. My example is Hurricane Neddy from The Simpsons, where Ned Flanders chews out the townspeople, who are evrything he says but have just done their best to help him.
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- There are quite a few of these in Good Will Hunting, but the one that deserves special mention is when Chuckie tells Will that in twenty years, if he's still living in their neighborhood and working construction, he'll kill him.
Will: Oh, come on! Why is it always this, I mean, I fucking "owe it to myself" to do this or that? What if I don't want to?
Chuckie: No, no, no, no, fuck you. You don't owe it to yourself. You owe it to me. 'Cause tomorrow I'm gonna wake up and I'll be fifty. And I'll still be doing this shit. And that's all right, that's fine. I mean, you're sitting on a winning lottery ticket. And you're too much of a pussy to cash it in, and that's bullshit. 'Cause I'd do anything to fucking have what you got. And so would any of these fucking guys. It'd be an insult to us if you're still here in twenty years. Hanging around here is a fucking waste of your time.
Will: You don't know that.
Chuckie: Oh, I don't know that. Let me tell you what I do know. Every day I come by to pick you up. And we go out and we have a few drinks and a few laughs, and it's great. But you know what the best part of my day is? It's for about ten seconds from when I pull up to the curb to when I get to your door. Because I think maybe I'll get up there and I'll knock on the door and you won't be there. No goodbye, no see you later, no nothing — just left. I don't know much, but I know that.
The whole speech is about Will being too good for that life, making it an ill-tempered The Reason Youre Awesome Speech. It's pretty much exactly the opposite of this trope, even if it's abrasively phrased. I'm sure there's some trope it fits into, something about tough love or shooing away the dog for his own good, but it's not this one.
Edit: On second thought, putting it back since it fits into one of the many "alternately" descriptions of the trope (brutally frank assessment by a friend). But the description need serious work: if it's every instance of anyone, hero, villain, friend or neutral, saying something harsh, it's getting into People Sitting On Chairs territory.
Edited by BritBllt "And for the first time in weeks, I felt the boredom go away!"
Edwood D. Wood's "Plan Nine from Outer Space", Eros speech about how earthlings are idiots and have stupid minds.
Charles Berthoud's video "When You Hit A WRONG Note In Classical vs Jazz" contains one.
The video game Bully has those, particularly when Jimmy gets expelled and when Gary and Jimmy fight.
There is one in the Simpsons episode "The Day The Earth Stood Cool" after Bart and T-Rex fight.
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