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Dec 18th 2011 at 2:48:19 PM •••

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May 23rd 2012 at 6:23:44 AM •••

It is Moral Dissonance. Although I feel the need to point out that the dissonance has a lot to do with the ancient world's concept of justice: quite simply, "An Eye for an Eye" was an acceptable solution back then. While changing Pharaoh's mind was a part of goal, the smiting of the firstborns was also very much Karmic Justice from the point of view of the Hebrews and their God. We wouldn't accept it, but then again, we don't live in Biblical Egypt.

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Nov 17th 2010 at 5:25:09 PM •••

I'm not quite sure how to add it myself, but, in the sub-entries under Synthetic Voice Actor, isn't it worth noting the possible relevance of Moses' own voice coming from the burning bush? I understand the reasons behind it were initially technical, but surely the philosophical implications of God speaking back to you with your own voice can't have been lost on the creators.

Can someone think of a good way to mention that, there? Or indeed, a relevant trope could be added for it?

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Oct 3rd 2010 at 10:45:29 AM •••

I don't wanna deface the page with tons of discussion, but the whole heart-hardening seems analogous to when you're a kid and you say "I'm sorry" but what you're really saying is "I'm afraid because I'm in trouble." God made sure the pharaoh wouldn't actually give in until he really believed he was in the wrong. Made him stick to his guns. Otherwise it wouldn't be free will to force someone to change their mind with miracles.

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Dec 21st 2010 at 8:51:40 AM •••

That makes sense. Also, this is the discussion page, so discussion is not defacing.

Jul 20th 2010 at 5:09:14 PM •••

Looking back on this film years later, I actually feel bad for Ramses. His brother vanishes only to reappear years later to tell him that unless he frees the slaves that basically do all of the hard, manual labor he'll declare biblical war on him. And does so. He destroys his kingdom, infects his people, and then kills his only son.

Before all this started had the slaves been all been freed then Egypt's economy most likely would have collapsed, however it was already being destroyed by the plagues that his own brother sent against him.

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Jul 27th 2010 at 12:16:28 PM •••

Except that it wasn't Moses, it was God who ordered the slaves freed and sent the plagues.

Don't get me wrong, I feel for Ramses, too, but this really isn't the tory of brothers set against each other, it's the story of one man fighting against God, but refusing to accept that and blaming the person in front of him (In this case, Moses).

Jul 27th 2010 at 12:58:45 PM •••

I realize that, I was talking about Ramses point of view during the film. I don't deny that it was God that said the slaves needed to be freed, but that still doesn't prevent me from feeling bad for the guy.

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