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, started by Spark9 on Jan 10th 2012 at 6:09:23 PM
Shouldn't this just be called a "long take"? It makes as much sense as the current name, except it's actually the real term and people might have picked it up before. (I certainly had, without having watched much behind the scenes stuff.)
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I agree. "The Oner" tells me absolutely nothing about what the trope is. It's misleading, even. "Long take" or perhaps "one long take" is a much better name.
The Oner is also an established industry term, and Whedon Our Master uses it.
I think that The Oner is a terrible name, call it The Long Take as that is its proper and more common name, or perhaps call it The Long Shot as that's just a descriptive and uses a common expression in the title, which is aesthetic and in style with tvtropes.
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Additionally, the pronunciation isn't immediately clear - looks like it's pronounced 'owner', pronounced like 'wunner' - which takes away from the aesthetics of the title.
The fact that it's a jargon term used by industry insiders is not a good argument for using it as a trope name. On the contrary, that should be cause for suspicion. Insider jargon terms are often opaque to outsiders, sometimes deliberately so. According to Naming a Trope, trope names should be clear and descriptive. This one fails on both counts.
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Well, actually, being a jargon term used by industry is a reason to keep it. We do documenting stuff here; we don't always rearrange it.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
"Industry jargon" makes it sound like it's an esoteric term that no one but Hollywood insiders know of. I'm not well-versed in film or TV outside of, well, watching it and I've heard the term.
And Preexisting Terms are explicitly one of the reasons not to rename a trope. So between that, the inbounds, the lack of misuse, there really isn't any reason to change it.
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May I chime in with saying that The Oner is a terrible name. And I have never heard of this term outside TV tropes. "Long Take" is more suitable as it is known to professionals and laymen likewise.
There's an epic shot in Gone With the Wind where Scarlett is looking for a doctor to assist with the birthing of Melanie's baby, and runs out into the street. A passing soldier incredulously informs her that there are no doctors available... at which point the camera starts pulling back, to reveal that there are dead soldiers nearby. Then it pulls back, and back, and back, and you realize there are HUNDREDS of dead or dying soldiers in the streets of Atlanta, which is why there are no doctors available to help with a birth.
I'm not sure which category this shot should be placed in (the oner, epic tracking shot, long take...???)
Any ideas? I can't find it mentioned anywhere, and it's really one of the most technically impressive shots of the movie.
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, started by Stratadrake on Aug 17th 2011 at 8:03:16 PM
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman