Discussion Main / SugarAndIcePersonality

How about this for the main image?:

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Does Soi Fon from Bleach count? She's cold and guarded - unless Yoruichi is concerned. (I might have the kuu- part described with the wrong words, but... Meh.)

I still think "Sugar and Ice" doesn't fit well the character type. It think it would be better something like "Icy/Sugary Personality". After all the Icy side it's the first to show.

I love the new name for Kuudere. Who thought of it?

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What about this quote from Criminal Minds as the page quote?

Hotch: Prentiss, this is the job, and I need to know that you can be objective.

Prentiss: And I need to know that I can be human.

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-disregard-

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Anime and Manga

• Seraphim from Kore Wa Zombie Desu Ka is one.
• Eris Feris from The Legend Of The Legendary Heroes is stoic still highly blunt and abusive.
• Dr. Atsuko Chiba in Paprika.
• Nora has two of the male variety: Kid with the Leash Kazuma and bluenette bishounen General Rivan.
• Futami Eriko from Kimikiss.
• Chika Ogiue from Genshiken.
• Shikamaru Nara from Naruto.
  • Sai qualifies, too.
  • Samui could arguably be one, as she really doesn't show any emotion except towards the idea her former sensei's been captured.
    • Her name actually literally means cold or chilly, in which case it could be an example of Exactly What It Says on the Tin.
• Shizuru Kuwabara from Yu Yu Hakusho.
• Golden Darkness (a.k.a. Yami) from To Love Ru.
• Renji Yanagi's anime rendition in Prince Of Tennis.
  • Sadaharu Inui comes off as a Sugar And Ice guy in the Dating Sims. And how.
• Mion Sonozaki from Higurashi No Naku Koro Ni.
  • And Mr. Furniture Kanon from Umineko no Naku Koro Ni.
    • Witch of Resurrection Ange Ushiromiya.
• Trowa Barton from Gundam Wing, especially with Catherine and Quatre.
  • And as a part of his Character Development, ex-The Stoic Heero Yuy acts tremendously sweet towards his friends and Relena by the end of the series.
• Takumi Fujiwara from Initial D.
• Bridget L. Satelliser, from Freezing.
• Lucia from Venus Versus Virus.
  • She's almost borderline Tsundere toward Sumire in the manga.
• Yasuna from Kashimashi Girl Meets Girl.
• Maria Tachibana from Sakura Taisen.
  • As well as Subaru Kujo.
• Yue from Card Captor Sakura starts as The Stoic, then becomes this. Touya, both towards Sakura and Yukito, is this from the start.
• The titular heroine of Shoulder A Coffin Kuro, oh so very much.
• Yin from Darker Than Black may qualify.
• From Captain Tsubasa, Jun Misugi and maybe Munemasa Katagiri.
• Shizuka Doumeki from XXX Holic. 'Nuff said.
• Sousuke from Full Metal Panic bounces between being a male version of this and a genuine stoic.
• Akito Hayama from Kodomo No Omocha is definitely a male version of this trope.
• Kanzaki Kaori in To Aru Majutsu No Index.
• Baccano has two, Chane and Ennis, both of whom have trouble coming to terms with human emotions, particularly compassion and affection.
• Felli Loss of Chrome Shelled Regios.
• Male example: Aquarius Camus from Saint Seiya. Also, his disciple Cygnus Hyoga.
  • And Pisces Albafica from Saint Seiya The Lost Canvas.
• Another male example: Ryu Amakusa from Tantei Gakuen Q.
• Albert aka 004 from Cyborg 009, in the 2001 series.
  • Also, Lina the Psychic Assassin.
• Miyu from Vampire Princess Miyu, though much more in the TV series.
• Erza Scarlet from Fairy Tail.
• Nagisa Yamada (a middle schooler and hopeful future member of the Self Defense Force) from Satou Kashi No Dangan Wa Uchinukenai seems to have definite Sugar-and-Ice Personality leanings in the early chapters of the manga. When asked by Umino Masachika to become her "precious friend", Nagisa responds, "I'm not interested in you because you're not a bullet... I don't care for anything else."
• Noël Kannagi from Sora No Woto devoted herself to machines and closed herself to people after being tricked when she was a kid to repair a bioweapons facility and being shown the results.

Comic Books

• Sometimes, Susan Storm of the Fantastic Four.
  • Which is odd, because usually you can see right through her...
  • It seems that opposites do not attract, because her husband Reed Richards is one of these as well.
• Emma Frost from X-Men, post-Grant Morrison era.

Literature

• Elinor, of Sense And Sensibility.
• Dedicate Rosethorn from Circle Of Magic is a cross between this and a Tsundere.
• HALT HALT HALT!!! from The Ranger's Apprentice.
• Both Tibby and Lena from The Sisterhood Of The Traveling Pants, Tibby favoring the cynical approach while Lena is of the stoic and aloof flavour.
• Horatio Hornblower is mostly cold towards everyone in the eponymous books, as opposed to only cold towards strangers in the A&E TV series. This is due largely to a combination of his determination to remain The Stoic in front of his men and his fellow officers, and his difficulty empathizing with many around him.

Live Action TV

• Effy Stonem, arguably.
• Number One from the Star Trek pilot "The Cage". She and Spock got rolled into one character for the second pilot.
• Star Trek The Next Generation: Ensign Ro Laren.
• Seven of Nine from Star Trek Voyager.
• On Farscape, Aeryn Sun.
• Sarah Jane Smith was something of a Type A Tsundere during her time on classic Doctor Who, but age seems to have mellowed her. Now, on The Sarah Jane Adventures, she fits this trope much more closely.
• Dr. Leslie Winkle in The Big Bang Theory.
  • Also Sheldon.
• Takeru, Shinken Red, from Samurai Sentai Shinkenger: her sweet side is rarely seen.
• Ziva from NCIS.
• Buffy Summers for much of the Season 6 of Buffy The Vampire Slayer.
  • Also from the Whedon Verse, Adelle Dewitt.
• Ashley in The Secret Life Of The American Teenager. Her facade is starting to break, though.
• Margaret Houlihan from M*A*S*H. Her hard-nosed side is very justified due to the fact that she's head nurse and an Army major who takes her job seriously. She arguably has the distinction of being both a Sugar And Ice woman and a Tsundere towards Hawkeye.
• Ronnie Mitchell from East Enders is a cynical Ice Queen who keeps other people at arm's length, but is also a troubled person with a lot of emotional baggage. Nobody's managed to thaw her out yet, though, thanks to the scriptwriters' habit of throwing a spanner in the works every time someone starts to get close to her.
• Scandal: Olivia.

Video Games

• Leona Garstein from Super Robot Wars is also very much this towards Love Interest Task Shinguji. It might have something to do with her ties to the colonies' nobility.
• Marisa from the 8th Fire Emblem game is a straighter example, especially in her supports with her boss/crush Gerik and Genki Girl Tana.
  • Lucia, the swordmaster from Fire Emblem 9/10: her support conversations with Bastian shows this side of her pretty well.
• Tear Grants from Tales of the Abyss.
  • And Raine Sage from Tales Of Symphonia (well, except for her Ruin Mode quirk).
• Naoto Shirogane of Persona 4 becomes one if she's the protagonist's love interest.
  • As does Mitsuru from Persona 3. Persona 3 Portable reveals a rare male example in the form of Shinjiro Aragaki.
• Avril from Wild ARMs 5.
• Natsu Ayuhara from Rival Schools is a slight mix of this and Huge Schoolgirl.
• In The King Of Fighters XIII, Elisabeth Blanctorche counts. Specially after Ash's Heroic Sacrifice, which brings her to tears.
• Nami from Harvest Moon: A Wonderful Life and the Special Edition. Her Magical Melody and DS/Cute counterparts, not so much.
• Tsugumi of Ever17 can be quite rude, but mostly she's merely very calm, aloof and distant.
• Lulu from Final Fantasy X.
  • Paine from Final Fantasy X 2 might also qualify.
  • Troubled, but Cute Squall from Final Fantasy VIII may count as a male example; it takes him a long time to realize he's developed feelings for Rinoa.
  • Fran also qualifies for this trope. She's from Final Fantasy XII.
  • Also seems like Noctis from Final Fantasy Versus XIII may be one.
• In Ace Attorney, Lana Skye definitely qualifies.
  • Miles Edgeworth is a male combination of this with a side of Tsundere.
• Yuina Himo-o, the teenage Mad Scientist from Tokimeki Memorial, becomes this if the main character wins her affections.
  • Same goes to Mira Kagami, The Alpha Bitch, who's actually a Broken Bird.
  • And to Rei Iijyuin.
• Atsuki from Lux Pain, eventually warms up due to The Power of Friendship.
• Legion, of all things, in Mass Effect 2.
  • Shepard can be played like this. In particular, if you choose Renegade options, Female Shepard comes off as Sugar And Ice.
• In Touhou Fanon, Patchouli is often depicted as this. Usually being warm towards Marisa.
• Jale from Suikoden Tierkreis, although he mostly shows his warm side toward his childhood friends. Especially Sieg.
• Jak from Jak And Daxter, starting from game #2. Although he got a bit more lively recently.
• Lesteena seems like one early on in Eien No Aselia, although it turns out to be a Jerkass Façade that is later dropped.
  • That leaves the only kuudere in the cast to be Selia. It's indirectly discussed, so you can blame it on AseLia if you're wondering why she's like that.

Web Comics

• Emily from Misfile started off as one of these but has morphed more into a traditional type B Tsundere as time has gone on. One possible explanation is that as her age regression has taken effect she is suffering from a bad case of The Mind being The Plaything Of The Body. Or else it's Flanderization.
• Miho from Mega Tokyo.
• Wooden Rose's Lillian.

Western Animation

• Zhalia Moon of Huntik acts as one of these to the party for much of the first season; she thaws out a lot after she stops spying for the villains.
• Gwen from Total Drama Island was a mix of this and Tsundere towards Trent in the first season.
• Huey Freeman from The Boondocks.
• Tom on The Amazing Chan And The Chan Clan coldly controls his emotions to the point where in episode 3, the following exchange takes place:
  Tom: My emotions have reached a state which makes it difficult for me to cogitate calmly.
  Suzie: In other words...
  Alan: He's mad!
• Tenzin and Lin from The Legend of Korra.

Does this even belong here, if she's a Defrosting Ice Queen?

• Ai Haibara from Detective Conan is one example, since she's a Defrosting Ice Queen with Deadpan Snarker tendencies.

Does this belong? Shy and awkward =/= cold personality.

• Sable Able from Animal Crossing starts out acting sort of shy and awkward the first time you talk to her, but eventually warms up after you've visited her shop enough times.

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