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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Sep 24th 2022 at 5:18:05 AM •••

Noting past discussions at this page.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Mar 23rd 2021 at 4:15:55 AM •••

Linking to a past Trope Repair Shop thread that dealt with this page: Make YMMV?, started by Magus on Apr 17th 2011 at 8:19:21 PM

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Mar 23rd 2021 at 2:48:54 AM •••

Linking to a past Trope Repair Shop thread that dealt with this page: YMMV or FlameBait?, started by Killomatic on Apr 30th 2011 at 2:43:53 AM

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Mar 23rd 2021 at 2:48:21 AM •••

Linking to a past Trope Repair Shop thread that dealt with this page: So what happened to the Ted Baxter examples?, started by nuclearneo577 on Jun 13th 2011 at 4:19:41 AM

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Mar 22nd 2021 at 10:40:17 AM •••

Linking to a past Trope Repair Shop thread that dealt with this page: Can we please have in-universe examples?, started by nuclearneo577 on Jul 27th 2011 at 1:54:02 AM

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
R.G. Since: Jan, 2001
Mar 1st 2012 at 10:18:12 AM •••

Wouldn't the inverse of this trope be Big Name, Small Ego?

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cclosina Since: Jun, 2012
Jun 22nd 2013 at 12:17:46 PM •••

Someone important, which is very modest.

gfrequency Since: Apr, 2009
Jul 25th 2011 at 6:17:30 AM •••

I'm sure it's come up before, but...why not just move this to Darth Wiki and keep Ted Baxter as its own trope?

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RhymeBeat Since: Aug, 2009
Jul 27th 2011 at 9:39:39 AM •••

Why do that? Even before the merge they were pretty much the same trope.

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CounterBlitzkrieg Since: May, 2010
Aug 22nd 2011 at 9:10:45 AM •••

Really? I always thought that the original "Small Name Big Ego" refers to creators instead of fictional characters.

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Blork Since: Jan, 2001
Aug 24th 2011 at 10:59:31 AM •••

It was originally about creators, but suffered massive Trope Decay and became an excuse to bash any celebrity you don't like. Half of the examples were people who could not meaningfully be called a "Small Name" and the "Big Ego" part tended to boil down to "He sucks but he won't admit it".

gfrequency Since: Apr, 2009
Oct 3rd 2011 at 12:00:34 PM •••

That's no reason to merge two distinctly different tropes into one and then ignore the original meaning because it's "not nice." That's just misuse of the trope. I agree, there should be two pages, one on Darth Wiki, but it'll never happen at this point.

ading Since: Jan, 2011
Jan 14th 2013 at 5:30:38 AM •••

That's not two "distinctly different tropes" at all. The only difference is that one is a particular field and the other is general.

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sparkykandy Since: Jan, 2001
Oct 23rd 2011 at 10:04:50 AM •••

I know that trope used to be called Ted Baxter, and from my basic understanding, it contrasted the insufferable genius trope. Well, Sky Lynx (from Transformers) was listed under both tropes. Since it's probably not possible for him to both, I just went ahead and deleted him from the example list. Sky Lynx may have a giant ego, but he usually has the skills to back it up.

However, with the name change, if this trope means something different, then it's possible that he may fit. But anyways, here's the example that I deleted:

Going further back to the G1 cartoon, we have Sky Lynx, a particularly egregious example as he 1. doubles up as the troop transport, and 2. turns from said transport into a massive dinosaur-ish creature which splits into a bird-like robot and a cat-like robot. The bird half is appropriately duck-like.

RhymeBeat Bird mom Since: Aug, 2009
Bird mom
BNJC1 Since: Jun, 2009
Nov 24th 2010 at 4:25:12 PM •••

Mind telling me what happened to the discussion?

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Committee Since: Dec, 1969
Nov 27th 2010 at 3:16:37 PM •••

It has been moved to archived discussion Click archived discussion for Small Name, Big Ego archived discussion

BNJC1 Since: Jun, 2009
DracMonster Since: Jan, 2001
Dec 22nd 2010 at 8:47:15 AM •••

It appears that the management has decided to perma-lock the page, so the debate over valid examples is moot now.

BNJC1 Since: Jun, 2009
TragicTDragon Since: Jan, 2001
Apr 5th 2011 at 11:56:01 AM •••

Well, no. Because I saw what this page became right before the decision to kill all the examples on it and lock it. It was pretty darn ugly; tropers with grudges against other tropers posting each-other as examples. Funny how being listed among the Uwe Bolls and Armond Whites of the world is a greater insult than, say, being listed on But You Screw One Goat...

JackAlsworth Drop-Dead Cynical Since: Jul, 2009
Drop-Dead Cynical
Feb 22nd 2011 at 7:49:45 PM •••

If Uwe Boll is going to be redlinked for the forseeable future, wouldn't it be prudent to move his quote to the quotes section and remove the link?

gatotsu911 Since: May, 2009
Feb 13th 2011 at 12:18:43 PM •••

Would like to add this passage to the article:

Small Name, Big Ego types can frequently overlap with The Determinator. Because they care so intensely about gratifying their egos and possess absolute confidence in their own abilities, they will frequently stop at nothing to get the things they want and the recognition they think they deserve, and the mental roadblocks that hinder most people in pursuit of their ambitions - self-doubt, uncertainty, concern for others and/or desire to avoid confrontation - are far less daunting to them. If their determination pays off, they can upgrade from Small Name, Big Ego to Broken Ace.

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