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Feb 22nd 2016 at 11:20:22 PM •••

I removed this entry.

  • Pretty much every authority figure in Ptolus has a reason they're in the position in the first place, are well-respected, and haven't been enveloped by the city by the spire's, ah, "intense" politics. DMs are given advice to not trot the players to these people for no reason, and to treat the encounters with gravity.

It does not state which work it come in anyway. No italic title, no wiki link. Nothing.

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Feb 23rd 2016 at 8:16:29 AM •••

Ah, very likely. Restore the entry then.

Aug 3rd 2014 at 10:13:42 AM •••

I propose adding this to No Real Life Examples, Please. The RL section isn't terrible at the moment, but this trope is People Sit On Chairs in real life, not to mention completely subjective and just asking for flame wars over what was and wasn't reasonable.

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Aug 3rd 2014 at 10:22:30 AM •••

Well, you should not remove a Real Life section before any consensus has been established. I personally don't see any flame bait entries, just a handful of ZCE. We do have a topic here where you can propose such an action.

Aug 3rd 2014 at 2:16:51 PM •••

People Sit On Chairs is "Tropes are conventions used in storytelling to convey some sort of information to the audience. People Sit On Chairs don't convey any meaning they aren't storytelling conventions at all, they're just things that happen normally or incidentally during the storytelling." You means this with their use of People Sit On Chairs?

Aug 4th 2014 at 9:30:24 AM •••

Real Life examples by default don't have storytelling purpose (other than in certain cases) so saying "this is PSOC" is semantically meaningless.

Feb 3rd 2014 at 5:45:07 PM •••

I think the MGLN section for this trope needs to be edited. It describes the TSAB as being helpful and understanding, when that is at odds with what we see in the show. It's debatable, considering the higher-ups and how corrupt they are. I mean, they employ child soldiers, and look at what happens to Nanoha, she gets CRIPPLED. And then they put Fate on trial despite the fact that she is a KID, possibly as an excuse to bully her to join them. It was no secret they wanted her as an agent because of her power. And hell, that one line even positively acknowledge the absence of child labor laws in a good light, and that is NOT a good thing to boast about. Overall, the trope needs to acknowledge that they treat children as adults, but not glorify it, because that is both a good AND a bad thing.

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Nov 8th 2012 at 3:23:32 AM •••

Does social clout count as "authority"? I have no idea, but if it doesn't count, then Fancy Pants needs to go.

Apr 15th 2012 at 10:28:17 PM •••

I'm in favor of striking this example wholesale:

"California Republican Darrell Issa and Oregon Democrat Ron Wyden has become well loved for this across the Internet. He and Wyden are the biggest foes of the widely loathed Stop Online Piracy Act, and are the complete opposites of its author, Lamar Smith. Democrat or Republican, it's hard to find an internet user who DOESN'T at least respect Issa."

As well-known as SOPA is in comparison to most legislation, a perceived "reasonableness" on one particular issue does not make a Reasonable Authority Figure out of the entire careers of Issa or Wyden. And while I'm no fan of Smith, the potholes in his name to ((Jerkass)) and Corrupt Politician are completely uncalled for.

Frankly, naming sitting politicians for this kind of trope sets a bad precedent, I think. I've witnessed a few Issa hearings in-person, and...well, let's just say there's some major Your Mileage May Vary here and leave it at that.

Nov 19th 2010 at 9:15:17 PM •••

I took out Kimblee. While I guess you could say that he's more reasonable than you'd expect a mass-murdering psycho to be, I wouldn't say he fits this trope.

His men hate and fear him and in the process of doing his job, he callously nearly killed his two chimera bodyguards. Not to mention that he pretty much threatens to kill Winry if Ed doesn't follow orders.

All in all, I'd put him more in the Bad Boss category.

Jul 28th 2010 at 9:33:14 PM •••

Moved the following quote off the main page and into Quotes since it really doesn't seem to have anything to do with this trope. This trope is about authority figures who listen to heroes and are reasonable:

The Evil Overlord kills for fun and profit. The Good Overlord kills for the good of his nation. The "Pacifist Overlord" is more accurately described as "The Former-Overlord". Odd Hat, When I Am The Benevolent Overlord

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Feb 3rd 2014 at 5:41:49 PM •••

DELETED. It's my first time posting in a dicussion. Sorry. The layout confused me.

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Aug 3rd 2014 at 10:12:57 AM •••

Same mistake as the guy above me. Embarrassingly, this isn't my first time posting in a discussion.

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