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KingZeal Since: Oct, 2009
Jan 8th 2014 at 3:08:24 PM •••

Moved this here:

  • According to WWE insiders, this storyline was done purely as a punishment. As a real-life devout Christian, Molly would not have the sex appeal they wanted their Divas to have. In 2002, WWE management asked her to "be more like Trish" and when she refused, this storyline began. Yet, according to others, the angle was entirely a product of WWE Head of Creative, Stephanie McMahon, and is held up as proof that she didn't know what she was doing. See the write-up of this angle on wrestlecrap.com. Both Jim Ross and Tazz apologized to her over the insults they made about her on commentary and Jerry Lawler has mentioned "getting a ton of hate mail" during that angle. It doesn't undo the damage, or the terrible message the company sent. Trish Stratus has said she shouldn't have said because she was a face at the time, aka Protagonist-Centered Morality.

Protagonist-Centered Morality is when a story ignores when the central character does something wrong. That's already dubious to apply to wrestling, because it's difficult to call anyone a "protagonist". Trish Stratus was the top female face, but that's still a bit of a leap.

Even if we accept that, however, the way it's written makes it appear that it's referring to Trish Stratus, the PERSON saying she shouldn't have said that as a Face. So she said that out of character. In which case, that seems to avert the trope entirely because the person portraying the "protagonist" here acknowledges it as a bad move.

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JIKTV Since: Aug, 2011
Jan 8th 2014 at 3:45:31 PM •••

They did ignore it. The whole time, Molly was made out to be a bad person because of the size of her ass. It's the same kind of Unfortunate Implications as when Jillian Hall had the stupid thing on her face. How about "Karma Houdini" for Trish?

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KingZeal Since: Oct, 2009
Jan 8th 2014 at 7:24:13 PM •••

I personally don't like either one, because it's passing judgment and being critical. The aim should be to explain what happened, and what it entails, without shoehorning tropes that imply morality.

That's why I originally focused on how the audience felt, because trying to elicit a certain reaction is exactly what this trope is about.

OmegaX123 Since: Apr, 2009
Feb 5th 2012 at 8:32:09 PM •••

Rose Tyler: I think Cassandra's remark about 'curves' was more likely the fact that until that moment, Cassandra had been literally a flat sheet of skin with a face for a very long time, having literally no curves of her own, than trying to say that Rose was supposed to be 'curvy' as in 'kind of thick but not fat'.

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KingZeal Since: Oct, 2009
Feb 5th 2012 at 8:39:54 PM •••

The actress that portrays her, though, is known for being Hollywood Pudgy...to the point that she became depressed because one fan said she looked fat.

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