Linking to a past Trope Repair Shop thread that dealt with this page: Needs to be split or redefined., started by TheGunheart on Oct 21st 2010 at 2:50:25 AM
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanLinking to a past Trope Repair Shop thread that dealt with this page: Can Borderline Petting Zoo People be split from Petting Zoo People, started by EdnaWalker on Nov 6th 2011 at 12:22:07 AM
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanSince it has been merged then we should go through the examples this page formerly had and move them to Beast Man if they are not there.
Lol, I have a simplistic art style, so most of the animals and humans have the same body shape. Okay, that's a lie
Real life folder proposal: Chimps and gorillas are pretty humanoid when you think about it.
Edited by TropeMaster5 Hide / Show RepliesThey cannot speak and have very different body proportions than humans and they are not a humanoid version of a different creature.
Yeah, but they're pretty humanoid in appearance. Also, nobody said PZP can't make their respective animal noises. Like if they live among humans, but there's still a language barrier between them
There are lots of examples here that fit better under Funny Animal. For example, in Zootopia and Robin Hood, the animals still have a body shape appropriate to their species apart from being bipedal and having Four-Fingered Hands. The distinction doesn't appear to be clear for most editors.
Hide / Show RepliesShouldn't Sheep and Wolves be mentioned? Because they're quite humanoid in appearance, and it borders on the uncanny valley. Like the human-nosed ram! What's that about?
I'm curious: What IS required for a character to be considering a "Petting Zoo Person"?
Hide / Show RepliesFor starters, an animal has to be humanoid in shape. It's literally stated on the page
Shouldn't sonic the Hedgehog be one of the examples?
Hide / Show RepliesNo. Sonic is a Funny Animal, not a Petting Zoo Person. A Funny Animal is an animal who walks upright and talks but retains the same body shape as their actual species, while a Petting Zoo Person is an animal who looks very humanoid in appearance but their only animal-like features are the head and the tail. Please get it right.
Um, I don't think Sonic is even remotely shaped like a hedgehog. He looks like a borderline PZP, to me.
Thanks to some awesome folks on giantitp I've managed to show where the animal people in Dungeons and Dragons show up.
How did you coin the name "Petting Zoo People" to refer to heavily anthropomorphic animals? "Petting zoo," "humanoid animals," really.
No, I'm not asking for a rename of this trope, but I'm just wondering why it was called "Petting Zoo People." It seems like a well-fitting name.
Edited by NateSpidgewoodCan I please change the term "Borderline Petting Zoo People" to "Demi Petting Zoo People" because it's easier to say and since the new term better describes how it's halfway between a Funny Animal and a Petting Zoo Person?
Edited by EdnaWalkerI'm pretty sure that if you apply the given correction and leave out Skaven as not being an example since the comment mentioning them says they don't fit this can be replaced with a one-liner on Ungors.
- Warhammer 40000 used to have Beastmen, a mutation of humanity that had pronounced animal features - the models that they released were wolf-people, although the fluff mentioned they could have been any animal. Later on, Games-Workshop realized that they didn't really fit with the theme of the game, and were canonically removed - the Imperium didn't tolerate them anymore, so they were all killed off or driven to Chaos armies.
- Correction, the majority of miniatures for Beastmen in Warhammer 40,000 (and Fantasy, for that matter) were GOAT men. Later Warhammer Fantasy supplements would divide the already divided Beastmen ('ordinary' Beastmen versus the much larger Minotaurs) into Gors (beast head and legs, slightly larger than human - the most powerful were called Bestigors) and Ungors (closer to this trope, where they are mostly human except for hairy legs, and somewhat distorted faces, as well as small horns).
- Why not include the Warhammer Fantasy Skaven? Cute little rat people. I'm not sure that either them or the Beastmen are really Petting Zoo material though.
Hey, I'd appreciate it if you could add my webcomic to the list of webcomics mentioned in this topic. The webcomic is CHIVALRY AND KNAVERY, located at www.chivalryandknavery.com. Two of the main characters (and a few minor characters) might qualify as Petting Zoo People.
By the way, one of those characters, Sir Toby, is mentioned on a separate TV Trope page, one dealing with "knights in shining armor." However, the page doesn't contain a link to the strip.
Thanks!
I'm thinking these are non-examples: the trope isn't people wearing costumes, it's highly anthomorphised animals.
- Rabi~en~Rose, a rabbit girl from Di Gi Charat.
- In fact, Rabi~en~Rose is a teen idol named Usada Hikaru (obvious joke on Utada Hikaru), and is only wearing a fancy costume. Furthermore, everytime Dejiko mentions her real name (usually to humiliate or infuriate her on purpose, because both are incredibly vain and compete to be the most popular salesgirl at Gamers, a bookshop in Akihabara), she throws a tantrum.
- Every single playable character class from the MMORPG Trickster has this in some form.
- Mildly subverted in that the ears and tails are just costumes; they can be unequipped at level 20, if the player desires.
Given she has no animal features I think this is not an example. The trope is when there is a clear, if minimal, physical sign.
- Touhou also has snake and Goddess Kanako. Possibly because of her Goddess status, however, unlike almost any other Touhoe she has no real physical sign of her animalistic nature.
- Kanako actually doesn't naturally have a snake motif. She just picked it up after beating the frog themed Suwako on the logic that snakes beat frogs.
Linking to a past Trope Repair Shop thread that dealt with this page: Deciding On What To Name The Two Tropes , started by EdnaWalker on Oct 23rd 2010 at 3:29:02 AM
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman