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memememememe Since: Jun, 2011
Jan 3rd 2017 at 4:04:37 AM •••

I propose this be renamed. Perverse Sexual Lust is a term that can be used to describe all perverse fetishes (e.g. coprophilia, pedophilia, Bestiality Is Depraved). I think a better name for this is the "Galatea Effect" or "Galatea Syndrome" from the Classical tale of an IRL human falling in love with his own fictional construct. PSL is too vague but Galatea Effect falls precisely with the core concept: real humans falling in love with artificial characters. Or, if you want to be more Japanese-ish, let's coin "Mai Waifu" instead.

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Ymirsdaughter Since: Jul, 2014
Sep 18th 2021 at 6:12:47 PM •••

Having discovered this page four and a half years later, I second this motion.

There's no reason to demonize this brand of asexuality.

Lakitude Since: Dec, 2021
Dec 16th 2021 at 5:50:20 AM •••

100%. Not only is it incredibly inflammatory to the actual 2D lovers of this wiki (and statistically there definitely are some), but it’s only Witty, not Clear or Concise.

Galatea Effect may not be the best name for it though, since it might rub up against Pygmalion Plot in unintended ways. There’s definitely thematic similarities between 2D love and pygmalionism, but they’re not the same thing.

Edited by Lakitude I’m a bad Lakidude with a bad Lakitude!
bbykittens Since: Nov, 2018
Nov 14th 2022 at 9:36:11 PM •••

Maybe Fictional Crush or Fictional Attraction would be better? This whole page is so unnecessarily negative too, I really think the whole thing should be reworked.

MarcyMarth Since: Aug, 2021
Nov 5th 2023 at 7:50:58 PM •••

Agreed with everyone else in this discussion.

Ymirsdaughter Since: Jul, 2014
Jun 17th 2023 at 11:37:15 PM •••

I find myself unable to navigate the forums to make another request, even though I promised to make no snide comments about allos. If nothing else, this is healthier, STD-free, impossible to do without consent, and overall far less gross than ...you know. So please, can we change the trope name?

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mr_c Since: Jul, 2020
Jun 18th 2023 at 2:31:12 AM •••

I ran a wick check for it a while ago, and it was decided that there wasn't enough misuse to justify a rename. And judging by the rest of this page, I was not the first. I still think it should be changed, but I'm not able to make that decision.

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xreix Since: Jul, 2009
Jun 4th 2021 at 7:17:32 AM •••

Would James Franco and his body pillow Kimiko-tan in 30 Rock be an example?

SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Mar 23rd 2021 at 7:03:47 AM •••

Linking to a past Trope Repair Shop thread that dealt with this page: Inappropriately tagged?, started by rjung on Oct 5th 2010 at 12:17:18 AM

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Mar 23rd 2021 at 2:53:32 AM •••

Linking to a past Trope Repair Shop thread that dealt with this page: To restore, perchance to rename, started by Prfnoff on May 14th 2011 at 5:06:39 AM

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
rjd1922 he/him | Image Pickin' regular Since: May, 2013
he/him | Image Pickin' regular
Dec 19th 2020 at 7:39:06 PM •••

TRS thread that voted to allow in-universe examples but lacked consensus for a rename.

Keet cleanup
asbjfalfkj Since: May, 2011
Jul 18th 2011 at 2:18:36 AM •••

Why is this called PERVERSE Sexual Lust? That is simply revealing certain cultural biases and veering into Acceptable Targets. Was this trope named after a quote or something? Otherwise, I don't see a justification for calling it perverse if we are trying to be neutral.

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dethtoll Since: Apr, 2009
Sep 21st 2011 at 12:51:45 PM •••

Did you actually read the page? It's in direct reference to the forums for It's Walky (and of course is now associated with the entire Walkyverse.)

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memememememe Since: Jun, 2011
Jan 3rd 2017 at 3:59:58 AM •••

I've read the page and still it doesn't really match up. PSL can be used to describe ANY sex offender, from Bestiality Is Depraved to pedophiles. But when the topic of IRL men falling in love with Fictional Characters, it's easier to thik a "Pygmalion and Galatea Effect" than the over-generalised PSL. And nobody cares about It's Walky.

All tropes ultimately come from Real Life. So Real Life should be troped as well.
CasatodoTotal Since: Sep, 2009
Sep 25th 2011 at 3:16:16 PM •••

what about in-universe examples? its worthy add some here or can it lead to natter?

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ladyofprocrastination Since: May, 2011
Nov 9th 2011 at 8:08:48 AM •••

I was wondering about that too. Is there any particular reason there are no examples at all instead of in-universe examples only?

DarthMegatron Since: Jan, 2010
May 3rd 2012 at 7:07:40 PM •••

Same here, I'm sure there are plenty of worthy in-universe examples.

Malimar Since: Jan, 2001
May 26th 2012 at 8:56:57 AM •••

I concur: we should include examples of in-universe examples.

I'd also like to nominate cases like Erin Esurance, who recently got axed because PSL had so completely taken over her image. I'm not sure whether having the widespread existence of PSL explicitly confirmed by the creators provides extra validation above and beyond the "I think this cartoon character is hot" of most non-in-universe examples.

Freakmighty Since: Aug, 2011
SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Jan 24th 2014 at 2:57:14 PM •••

You might want to offer that up in Ask The Tropers or Trope Repair Shop.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Prfnoff Since: Jan, 2001
Jan 24th 2014 at 3:08:24 PM •••

This was what happened the last time it went through Trope Repair Shop. More precisely, it's why nothing happened.

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shadowgirl_13_chaos Since: Jun, 2009
Dec 30th 2011 at 7:49:13 PM •••

please don't. Some people can watch anime hot dudes AND have lives.

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Theblueone Since: Dec, 1969
Jun 28th 2011 at 1:18:29 PM •••

Not trying to be a bug, but when will the examples be moved over to the fetish fuel wiki? There was a huge troper tales section that got cut and was supposed to be moved to the other wiki.

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TheInferno Since: Jul, 2010
Jul 9th 2011 at 11:15:24 AM •••

I think that wiki is it's own thing, we aren't related to it all except for the fact that it was created due to Fetish Fuel being cut from here. If you guys have the source from Google Cache or wherever (probably gone by now) you should go ahead and add it over there.

I've never been over there, never really plan to, so I can't help. Sorry.

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GrieverVIII Since: Jul, 2013
Aug 20th 2010 at 7:28:56 AM •••

where did this picture come from? Is it from a con or something? anyways its hilarious, kudos to whoever put it there.

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Citizen Since: Jan, 2001
Dec 10th 2010 at 10:28:32 PM •••

Pretty sure that's from an image generator. As in, you supply an image (Kamina), it sticks it over whatever was really there.

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