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"Superman and Batman got Anti-Hero Substitutes. For Superman, it was the Eradicator, one of the four replacement Supermen who appeared after he died. For Batman, it was Jean-Paul Valley, the man formerly (at the time), known as Azrael, who replaced him after Bane broke his back. Nightwing chewed Bruce out over it and Bruce himself admits it was one of his worse mistakes."
Wouldn't Artemis be a '90s Anti-Hero replacement for Wonder Woman?
Sure, why not?
Other Potential examples that may fit this trope: Before I just add them onto the example page, I would like to get people's input as to whether the following can be classified as N.A.H.s.
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I'm going to hate myself for asking this, but is the page image a parody or was that a genuine title?
It's a genuine title.
The Jo Jos Bizarre Adventure example just seems... bizarre. Jojo is a bit of a Blood Knight, but he really doesn't fit other than that. He's a teenage kid who wears a school uniform named and is named Jojo. Which is a far cry from the Darker and Edgier implications of the trope.
He's more of the Japanese Delinquents archetype. While he does share a few aspects of the '90s Anti-Hero (Deadpan Snarker, willingness to kill, heavily muscled), those are pretty... common traits. The more distinctive traits of the '90s Anti-Hero he lacks.
I agree, he wears a long coat and is musclebound, he's been seen smiling and being caring in the manga (thing that Nineties Anti-Heroes rarely do). So I'm a little puzzled too.
Also, I understand Guts fitting this trope, but how about Killy? I find him an stoic guy who rarely talked, laughed like a maniac at the beginning and nothing else. And uses a really powerful gun, but he wants to restore humanity so... why is he a nineties anti hero again?
I'm surprised not many people refard the Rambo films as an influence on the '90s Anti-Hero.
Or if they have, I may have missed it.
Is it really fair to have the caption "everything that was wrong with the 90s..." in the image?
Is the Nineties Anti Hero still an example of Tropes are not bad?
Yes. Just wrote that down in the article so it's clear.
So it's basically a dark and edgier version of a comic book superhero which became popular in the nineties but right from the start most writers failed at using the trope effectively?
I don't think Witchblade belongs on the page. While she did kill villains, she was still, at the heart of her characterization, a cop. She still protected the innocent and solved crimes.
For that matter, Spawn had his share of redeeming qualities, most notably his devotion to and protection of his wife and child. And also that he took care not to get "innocent" homeless killed or involved in what he was doing.
I think we either need to tweak the description so that characters who are violent, kill bad guys, and are morally grey can fit, or else do a purge of examples that don't quite fit the description as being "completely made up of flaws."
Any specific examples of Nineties Anti Heroines whose physiques' are "often taken to disfiguring extremes courtesy of the ineptitude of the trope's pioneering artists"? Because I have a hard time imagining one who already even more unrealistic than the more unrealistic "standard" Super Heroines.
How about any hero drawn by Liefeld?
Removing this ridiculously conflicted entry:
How does being crazy prevent you from being this trope?
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