The problem is that some questions do establish some preconceptions that render them loaded de facto. "Have you stopped beating your wife" assumes that you have a wife, and that you're beating her.
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- An excellent example occurs in this clip from the Late Show with David Letterman.
Bill O'Reilly: Let me ask you something, and this is a serious question. Do you want the United States to win in Iraq?Letterman proceeds to carefully explain how he used to support the Iraq war but now thinks things are going poorly.O'Reilly: Possible, but do you want right now—do you want the United States to win in Iraq?Letterman: Ahem...first of all, I don't—O'Reilly: It's an easy question. If you don't want the United States to win in Iraq—Letterman: It's not easy for me because I'm thoughtful.
The first bulletin needs to be cleaned up because as it's stated now, there is an answer to "I always lie, and this is the truth, am I telling the truth?"
The answer is no. I am not telling the truth. I sometimes lie, and this statement is a lie would be an acceptable answer that falls under "no."
Hide / Show RepliesNo, because answering "no" is an answer to the stated question, therefore you are accepting the premise that the person always lies. Hence the point that the Master Computer is not allowed to dispute the premise that the person always lies.
I removed this bit of natter/Flame Bait:
And FYI, the question presupposes that there is an objective condition defined "winning" which all parties can agree on and which could possibly take place. That is why it is not an easy question: because such an objective, commonly-agreed upon definition does not exist or has not been established. Until it does exist/is established, the whole "three possibilities" stuff is total nonsense.
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Shouldn't the answer to a Complex Question, assuming it isn't "yes", always be "no"?
It becomes fairly obvious if we examine the example question. As the article says, the question is actually two questions*: "Have you ever beaten your wife?" and "Do you not(!) beat your wife now?". Or, logically expressed:
If we now resolve the statement, this develops:Therefore, the correct answer is "no". Now it is fallacious of the one who asked the question to assume that "Do you beat your wife now?" is true.
In fact, as long as someone has never beaten their wife (or doesn't have one), the following answers are both correct, as both contain the question "Have you ever beaten your wife?":
Have you stopped beating your wife? - No.
Are you still beating your wife? - No.
* Strictly speaking, both the questions above are once again complex questions, as both assume that the one asked actually has a wife, but that's irrelevant here.
TLDR:
Asking a complex question is not a fallacy, and it does have a definite answer, but the conclusion usually drawn from the answer is fallacious, it being an Existential Fallacy. Edited by 78.53.235.51 Hide / Show Replies