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Wild-Starfish Since: Jan, 2022
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Mar 23rd 2021 at 10:40:32 AM •••

Linking to a past Trope Repair Shop thread that dealt with this page: Replace the Bastard / Bitch pair of gendered counterparts?, started by Xzenu on Nov 6th 2010 at 4:43:55 PM

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
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Mar 23rd 2021 at 10:17:33 AM •••

Linking to a past Trope Repair Shop thread that dealt with this page: Clarification of Chessmaster and Manipulative/Magnificent Bastard, started by NativeJovian on Jan 14th 2011 at 3:30:26 PM

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
KJTropes Since: May, 2019
Jun 27th 2019 at 8:56:06 PM •••

The example in the Professional Wrestling folder about Paul Heyman seems more about him as a real person than it is about his on-screen character (in WCW, ECW, the American Wrestling Association and elsewhere as Paul E. Dangerously and under his own name in WWE, in the event that whoever reads this isn't a wrestling fan), and the rip on the wrestler 911 seems more like Complaining About Shows You Don't Like. Could it either be removed or rewritten to be about how he manipulates wrestlers as an on-screen character, since this is a No Real Life Examples, Please! trope? Thank you.

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Slaugth324 Since: Jun, 2017
Jun 26th 2017 at 1:46:11 PM •••

what i mean is doesn't a manipulative bastard use plans to further his agenda or not because it would seem so from the description but almost none of the example have manipulative bastards/bitches using plans they just have them talking to people

Slaugth324 Since: Jun, 2017
Jun 26th 2017 at 1:12:35 PM •••

sorry i'm new, I have been following tv tropes for a long time and i thought the manipulative person had plans like the chess master but was "more personal and controlling in their manipulations" in essence they use plans gambits plots and other forms of scheming and planning to manipulate people by playing on a variety of things including but not limited to, desires perspectives emotions insecurities etc

longWriter Since: Apr, 2012
May 25th 2013 at 7:12:14 AM •••

I could use some help figuring out whether a villain I created fits the bill of Manipulative Bastard. You see, he's good at manipulating the emotions of the heroes and also good at getting them to do what he wants them to do, but he doesn't mix the two—-manipulating emotions is, to him, an end in itself, and he uses things like false radar signals to get them to go where he wants them to go.

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DaibhidC Wizzard Since: Jan, 2001
Wizzard
Jan 20th 2014 at 6:01:56 AM •••

Pulled this from the El Goonish Shive example of Nanase's mother:

Looks like Conversation In The Main Page. (And since we're on the discussion page surely the point isn't that she's not "a hapless hysterical wreck" - in which case everyone in EGS would be a maniupulative bastard - it's that she's lying to her daughter, in a way that makes her daughter feel bad, for reasons unknown. I'm actually not certain she qualifies myself, but the above sarcasm overstates the idea she doesn't.)

RicaCriscia The NoMouth Nocturnal Since: Nov, 2010
The NoMouth Nocturnal
Apr 30th 2011 at 3:50:33 AM •••

Would passive-aggressive behavior be an example of this?

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ClassyMyths Since: Oct, 2011
Dec 22nd 2011 at 9:41:53 PM •••

Only if their passive-aggressiveness pushes them to manipulate the people around them.

ClassyMyths Since: Oct, 2011
Dec 22nd 2011 at 9:41:53 PM •••

Only if their passive-aggressiveness pushes them to manipulate the people around them.

gibberingtroper Since: May, 2009
Sep 27th 2011 at 4:51:27 AM •••

Whoever wrote this caption for the Tower of Babel cover currently on the front page, got a good laugh out of me. Thank you.

"The other heroes always get annoyed when Batman breaks out the puppets to explain his plan."

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