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Mar 15th 2012 at 2:09:23 PM •••

Dumbledore didn't seek the office of the Minister of Magic but that doesn't mean that, contrary to his own protestations, that he never sought power in the Ministry. According to his Chocolate Frog card, he was the Chief Warlock of the Wizengamot (which is at least the High Court), the Supreme Mugwump of the ICW (the Magical UN) and a/the Grand Sorcerer (whatever that means but it was important enough to put on the card). Not to mention the fact that by the time of PS/SS, Minister Fudge had become notorious for sending Dumbledore letters every other day asking for advice. Which means that Dumbledore was lying out his ass when he claimed to not have sought power.

Mar 5th 2012 at 2:55:58 PM •••

Image picking: I was thinking about using one of Jaime Lannister shoving Bran out a window, with the "things I do for love" line as a caption. Anyone else got any other suggestions?

Aug 9th 2011 at 10:16:57 AM •••

I'd like to separate the page into four different sections for different ways in which love can make characters evil.

1.Love itself. Alice loves Bob and she's willing to do virtually anything for his sake or to get him. Misa of Death Note is an example.

2.Loss, or at the very least, harm coming to a loved one. Alice loves Bob and is a good person while he is alive, but when he dies, she seeks revenge on his killer and become evil in the process. An example is Precia of Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha.

3.Rejection, regardless of whether a third party is involved. Alice loves Bob, but he loves Claire, so she kills Claire. Shiho of Mai Hime only turns evil

4.Multiple Types

  • Nina Wang of Mai Otome is arguably a mixture of all three types. Learning that Sergay is Arika's benefactor makes her Type 3, following Nagi's orders to protect Sergay from the consequences of him hiding that fact from him makes her Type 1 and she falls into Type 2 when operating the Harmonium to save him from death.
  • Tomoe of Mai Otome arguably is a Type 1 and 3, as while many of her evil actions are to eliminate Arika as alleged competition, she also joins the Valkyries to get 3.

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Oct 5th 2011 at 5:37:25 PM •••

Sounds like a good idea. Put out category 4 for mixed/multiple types and everything else not covered by the first three.

Feb 19th 2011 at 5:55:07 AM •••

Calling the trope "Love Makes You Evil" does indeed make it Fridge Logic. Most of these examples, though, are about love being a motive for doing evil, which makes the name of the trope seem misleading.

Pride is often a motive for doing evil, so we have a trope for that motive... and it's called Because I'm Good at It. It's not called Pride Makes You Evil, because that would be a stupid name.

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Aug 1st 2011 at 7:54:56 PM •••

Maybe it should be called Love Can Make You Evil, to contrast against the widely-prevalent convention that Love can never lead to knowingly doing evil.

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