You'll never find out who I am
Either way, it's usually their status on the team of "good guy" that results in them never being called out on it. After all, if they were an asshole on team "bad guy", they'd just be another villain.
This contradicts the video example, Emil Antonowsky, who is on team "bad guy".
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Just outta curiosity aaand I don't know if this has been asked already, but...Why isn't it just called "Jackass"? "Jerkass" while kinda quirky and I GUESS somewhat interesting isn't really to prevalent in the lexicon...
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Jackass/jerkass may be a regional difference.
That was the amazing part. Things just keep going.
I've been wondering for a while... is it valid to add this trope to every villain ever? Like unless they fall into the Affably Evil, Faux Affably Evil or Punch-Clock Villain (sometimes) I've seen this trope added in almost every villain character folder and unless this is major aspect of their personality isn't a bit redundant to add it on the Complete Monster, Omnicidal Maniac, Sadist and the like when they are very obviously not meant to be pleasant people in the first place?
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No i dont think so, sense a villain is someone who does harm to good people and the protagonist, whereas a jerkass is just a mean and annoying character.
Linking to a past Trope Repair Shop thread that dealt with this page: Clean up the Troper Tales:
, started by OMalley on Nov 9th 2010 at 11:42:59 PM
Linking to a past Trope Repair Shop thread that dealt with this page: How is this not YMMV?, started by nuclearneo577 on Jun 8th 2011 at 8:41:36 PM
Do the examples have to be written the way they are? Can't they just be the standard Anime and Manga, Comic Books, etc.
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I have the same question as Rose Bride below (I wasn't sure whether I should reply to an old topic or start a new one).
Can villains be troped as Jerkasses or is this trope strictly for characters that are assholes but not actually villains? Some examples on this page have talked about villains of the show/book/ect but other examples have not mentioned any of the villains so I'm not sure what the standard is.
Page quote discussion time! Old quote:
while handicapped people make handicapped faces.
I'm an asshole!
New quote:
I reverted it because I am of the belief that the original quote works better due to it illustrating what makes Denis Leary a jerkass, versus the new quote simply saying that Dio is a jerkass with no explanation. Opinions?
Is this trope's name a combination of jerk + jackass?
Not my circus, not my monkeys.
Because there are so many listing them all would be pointless.
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Ading's right... There are so many examples, it would probably slow down the sever.
Not my circus, not my monkeys.
Again about the quote.
We have two options here.
Subject 1:
Subject 2:
As you can tell by the discussion above, I like the Denis quote better. Why? Because it expressly tells about someone doing something Jerkassish just for the sake of being a jerkass, and doing it to multiple people that he doesn't know, as well as having the added bonus of matching some of the redirects. Insofar as the second quote goes, it just like it could be aimed at a single target, when insofar as I'm aware, being a Jerkass is about being a Jerkass to everyone. The Scrubs quote doesn't show the "everyone" bit.
That said, what does everyone else think?
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...ooookay. It's been five days. I'm gonna re-add the Denis quote then since no one has replied.
Okay, so the old page quote was as follows:
It got replaced in August of 2010 with this:
The original change was somewhat misspelled and misquoted, but a few edits later and it was good to go. Later on, an xkcd quote and the original Azumanga Daioh page quote got added as secondary page quotes, but were told by Camacan to move it to the quotes page. The page quote was then reverted back to the Azumanga Daioh after 7 months (I suppose someone /really/ wants it on the front page).
Now, with the history stated for the record, I reverted it back because I honestly believe that the Denis Leary quote is a much better example of Jerkass-yness than a quote of someone asking someone else why they put so much energy into pissing people off. Why? Because it provide a concrete example of Jerkass behavior via parking in handicap spaces to piss handicapped people off. The Azumanga Daioh quote is just a question implying Jerkass behavior.
So, with my reasoning as to why I changed it back stated, does anyone have anything to add? If everyone likes the Azumanga Daioh better, then I will happily revert it back myself, or if someone pulls out a better quote, then again, I will happily change it myself, since this is not MY wiki. All I ask is that it not get reverted or changed until discussion is made on it.
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I believe the Azumanga Daioh quote is Fan Myopia on the part of people liking the show, it doesn't show the trope, and is the quote equivalent of Just A Face And A Caption. The Leary quote, and the entire song, is much more an example of being a Jerkass.
Keeper of The Celestial Flame
"Every other word out of his mouth is "Shut up" or "I'll kill you." In the first episode of the second season, his companions are thrilled to realize that there is a fake Sanzo beating up the real Sanzo and ditch their fakes they were fighting to go watch. Despite being a Buddhist monk, he will often refuse to chant sutras or preach, instead demanding free food and lodging from temples."
Removed this because it's inaccurate. Though mileage does vary, Sanzo's biggest problem is his caustic rudeness, compared to all the other examples where there's stuff like attempted rape and much crossing of moral event horizons. Sanzo also repeatedly demonstrates, sometimes right after being really rude, that he's actually a decent guy (reacting with an expression of horror when he finds out his former temple was attacked after he left, encouraging Hakkai during the Chin Yiso arc, rescuing and then refusing to abandon Goku, not leaving a feast even though he wanted to, because a little girl asked, not wanting to die for someone else because he knows it sucks to be the person left behind, and on and on). Since he keeps showing that he actually does care about his companions and their emotional health, his inclusion in this trope seem like shoehorning.
And the final bit about Buddhist monks is particularly wrong, since asking for free food and lodging was actually how traveling Buddhist monks survived back then. If you visited a temple, they were equally supposed to offer free food and lodging, especially to a monk as high ranking as Sanzo. More importantly, Sanzo has actually never demanded free food and lodging, he always pays with his credit card (except in one omake, where he lost the thing).
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