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May 10th 2017 at 3:13:08 PM •••

I don't think this trope should have a real life section. While many of the examples there seem valid, there are some that are kind of inappropriate and even insulting. Not to mention, this trope's parent trope specifically forbids real life examples.

May 8th 2014 at 3:39:37 PM •••

This may be a bit irrelevant, but, about pitbulls in the real life section...

Many years ago, my family used to always talk about it was actually Pitbulls that are Nightmare Fuel even if you give them love as if they have natural deadly features like a Diclonius (Elfen Lied).

Sorry, I just had to let that out. :p

Is that even true...?

Nov 12th 2010 at 6:51:11 PM •••

To echo the above troper, this list is highly overinflated. We need to differentiate "Iron Woobie" from "hero that has bad things happen to them and still is a hero". They ARE different. We should not allow any examples that do not justify them as being "iron"; i.e, not showing a willingness to tough out their troubles.

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Nov 13th 2010 at 10:56:24 AM •••

All right, I'll give it a go- hacking the examples list, and trying to clarify the definition. Wiki Magic it as you see fit.

Feb 28th 2013 at 2:35:13 AM •••

Even though it's been over 2 years since you said that, I'm going to take that as an invitation to remove some of these examples. Some of them are just absolutely ridiculous.

Mar 19th 2013 at 7:57:48 AM •••

Some of the examples you got rid of were for characters who genuinely are iron woobies, though. Most notably, the Violinist of Hameln example, which was not exaggerating when it said that almost all the protagonists qualify. They're among the best example of iron woobies I can think of. Certainly, some of the examples which are still there are far weaker examples of iron woobies than they are. You didn't give a reason for getting rid of that one. Was it the way that the person who added it wrote it?

Aug 17th 2010 at 5:01:26 AM •••

This list is ridiculous. It seems to be broader than the Woobie page itself. At the current spread it might as well be named, "Protagonist or main character who ever has anything bad happen to them" and be done with it.

Jun 13th 2010 at 12:49:07 PM •••

I think Jayne's speech from Jaynestown would make a better page quote: " Far as I see it, You people have been given the shortest end of a stick ever offered a human soul in this crap-heel 'verse... But you took that end, and you, you know... Well... You took it. And that's... I guess that's somethin'."

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