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WillBGood Since: Jan, 2011
May 7th 2014 at 5:58:23 PM •••

Is Brer Rabbit— a fine example of a Trickster Hero— really a good subject for the page quote?

Therapsid Since: Dec, 2011
Dec 22nd 2012 at 2:35:12 PM •••

Should Jonny Quest be listed as an example here? The title character isn't incompetent so much as just a kid and is frequently shown to be fairly skilled in a variety of activities, just not particularly skilled at fighting trained soldiers or guards. As the example list even notes, it's Race and Jonny's father who typically were responsible for winning fights, and they get the in-universe credit for doing so.

Camacan MOD Since: Jan, 2001
Nov 24th 2011 at 2:14:47 AM •••

Both lack details. How To Write An Example. Second is apparently a non-example.

  • Fry from Futurama is a very comedic example.
  • The Simpsons: Homer Simpson would be, except that his plots seldom involve any actual "victory").

Camacan MOD Since: Jan, 2001
Nov 24th 2011 at 2:13:52 AM •••

Not an example. How To Write An Example. We need specifics about how the trope plays out. Audience reactions are neither here nor there for our purposes.

  • Many people were not amused when The Phantom Menace turned Darth Freakin' Vader into one of these.

Camacan MOD Since: Jan, 2001
Nov 24th 2011 at 2:11:42 AM •••

This material appears to repeat some of the above material and conflict in places. In particular it makes out that victory via luck is the only way the trope can work, not one of the ways. Both sections can't be right. This reads like a note to editors. If clarification is needed it is better to get the description clear and correct rather than use a note. If a note can't be avoided, use the comment markup. See Text Formatting.


NOTE: As noted above, this trope has some overlap with several others. For clarity, this is about a character who remains far outclassed by their enemies (in severe cases, never getting more skilled at all), despite many victories or other brushes with danger, and invariably triumphs through accident or through the actions of others which this character knew nothing about. Further, this character, specifically, is treated as the hero for their victories.

Edited by Camacan
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