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Jul 1st 2018 at 7:31:52 AM •••

Isn\'t this trope so ubiquitous in action movies as to be a plausible case for \"only mention aversions\" status?

Aug 28th 2013 at 9:54:53 AM •••

One thing that bothers me about the description is that Obi-Wan never actually calls the Imperial Stormtroopers good shots. He just says "Only Imperial Stormtroopers are so precise." There's a difference between accuracy and precision... and on top of that, he never said that the Imperial Stormtroopers were on the good end of the precision scale; just that there was a difference of precision between them and the Sand People.

In short, I don't think it's Informed Ability; I think Obi-Wan was trying to be sarcastic and failed.

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Aug 29th 2013 at 11:41:47 AM •••

There's a technical definition between accuracy and precision... but not really a colloquial one.

I think you're meeting him more than halfway by believing it to be Sarcasm Failure. There's really no reason to think he meant anything other than what he said.

That said, the entry is quite nattery.

Mar 7th 2013 at 4:49:13 AM •••

Not that it changes the basic argument (accuracy in real life is typically much lower than in the movies), but the surprising bullets fired to targets hit ratio from WWII also has to do with the fact that a large number of soldiers would intentionally try to miss their target (not firing their weapon at all would lead to ridicule and/or serious punishment, however), because they were uncomfortable with the idea of killing a human being. This has supposedly become less of a "problem" in contemporary armies composed of professional volunteer soldiers, though.

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Mar 31st 2016 at 4:45:49 PM •••

I would also add that the average engagement range in WWII was not 10 meters but 200 meters, and generally you could barely see the enemy if at all.

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Sep 4th 2012 at 3:07:32 PM •••

Why was the picture changed to what it is now?

Jun 2nd 2012 at 9:58:06 AM •••

Oh god I remember seeing that picture on a funny pictures App for iphone. That was perfect.

Feb 10th 2011 at 7:19:00 AM •••

The Trope Namer excuses on the wiki for it does have a good excuse for the first Star Wars movie. The idea that the Storm Troopers are treating the hero's with Kid Gloves so they can find the base would explain why they always missed there.

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May 7th 2011 at 1:37:51 AM •••

my comeback is the heroes didn't do much better a job at shooting. also in obiwans words a sandperson is far less accurate than a storm trooper. kinda says alot about the tuskans doesn't it? considering the best shot they had was to clip a pod in episode 1 (and it wasn't even the heroes)

May 26th 2011 at 4:20:27 PM •••

I seriously think the trope should be renamed "Stormtrooper Effect".

Nov 8th 2011 at 5:27:21 PM •••

Yea, It's much more short and sweet.

Sep 4th 2012 at 3:06:03 PM •••

Blanks: i put it in the wrong spot

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Nov 3rd 2014 at 5:20:30 PM •••

The name isn't that intuitive, either. I never even saw any of the Star Wars movies.

What about something like Mooks Have Bad Aim or Improbably Bad Aiming Skills or Terrible Marksmanship?

Nov 3rd 2014 at 11:21:53 PM •••

This name has extremely good usage stats and is even cited on Wikipedia. Besides, all of these names have problems (Mooks Have Bad Aim restricts the trope to mooks without need; Improbably Bad Aiming Skills seems like it applies to all sides, not just to villains; ditto Terrible Marksmanship).