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I think that a fanfic recommendation page needs to be created. There's already quite a few good fics, even with a fandom so new!
I think that the Rule34 entry should be deleted. While I understand that yes, it exists, I don't want links getting out of hand. Pages about countless other films on TV Tropes don't tastelessly list links to "on our way" porn, so why should this one? It was fine when it was just the one deviantART drawing of Hiccup and a humanized Toothless looking like they're gay. The picture of Ruffnut and Astrid tongue-kissing while Hiccup watches is crossing the line (once). Before you know it, people will be willingly linking to any Rule 34 they can find. As a fairly decent website, we need to prevent this. Who's with me?
Thank you, Vifetoile. I'm eager to just completely delete that whole line, but I'll wait for more replies. You'll notice (I'm speaking to anyone now) that very few other pages on anything just randomly link to material like this.
Hey, I'm with ya too. :D
I delete it when either of these happen:
1. Two more tropers in agreement.
2. Sunday, April 18th.
...whichever comes first, unless someone else deletes it before me. Dogman15 is out, peace!
Okay, so, I deleted the Rule 34 entry. After some searching around on the main entry's history, I found out that it was "Latia 18.104.22.168" who originally added the Rule 34 entry, on April 4th, 2010 at 9:28 pm (by my browser's clock).
And thank you, Elric Keyblade, for agreeing with me as well.
Just delete it right away next time. Links like that are safe to delete without a comittee.
Why does everyone hate on the Astrid/Hiccup?
First time I've heard of that. I loved the subplot with Hiccup/Astrid. For all the fantasy in the story, their relationship feels more real than any dedicated romance film I can name.
I hear a bunch of people complain it was a useless add on.
While I can understand this perspective, the film is so simple that it wouldn't really be such a massive change if you reduced the cast to just Toothless, Hiccup, and his dad. That's basically the core of the film anyway.
Astrid is not a Faux Action Girl simply because she defers to Hiccup on the basis of the final dragon battle. For one thing, Hiccup is good with weapons as in the beginning, just not the conventional Viking ones.
After all, the basic story starts when he downs a Night Fury Dragon, something no one his community has ever even seen clearly, much less survived attacking. That alone should tell you that you can't underestimate this boy.
The whole point of the film is that Hiccups grows and improves by learning to fight and handle dragons his way. This does not chickify Astrid, she just knows that in her community no one is better suited to facing dragons than Hiccup. So, in the final battle, Astrid, who rides in on her own dragon, is simply and logically deferring to a warrior who has proved to her again and again that he will know how to win this battle.
I agree- I also didn't feel that she was chickified because she let Hiccup take charge in the final battle. She had shown time and time again throughout the movie that was the opposite of a Faux Action Girl, and it would make sense for her to let Hiccup take charge in the end since he obviously knew more about dragons than everyone else in his village- in my opinion, this didn't put a dent in the fact that she had skills nonetheless.
And in the dragon training, Astrid gets in more hits than the rest of the students combined. What the heck is faux about her?
I'm wondering about the skull-and-crossbones design of Toothless' tail fin at the end of the movie, as well as Hiccup's new "peg leg"; could this be somewhat of a Sequel Hook or a Shout Out to the title of the next book in the series, "How to Be a Pirate"?
...dragon riding viking pirate?
The IM Db listing shows Jonah Hill as Snotlout, the credits in the UK show David Tennant as Spitelout. Is that a different character, or is it using some (more) local voice talent in the UK?
Spitelout is the Viking that is usually with Stoik possibly his second in command. Don't recall him having much lines though.
For recent movie it's gotten rather large. Perhaps this article should be split into separate articles for the books and the movie.
I agree. The book and the film are such different animals that it makes more sense for there to be separate pages.
If no one else objects, I'm going to go ahead and attempt to split them now. Wish me luck.
Not completely split, but created page How To Train Your Dragon Film. I don't immediately want to remove all the film-related items from the pages or add redirect. Do I need to get an okay on it first?
Is it just me, or did Stoutlout look an awful lot like a young Eddie Riggs from Brutal Legend?
Hm. Stovik and Gobber had every intention of dying so the rest of the Vikings could get away, even though it didn't work out that way. Does it negate Heroic Sacrifice if they get rescued before they actually die, even though they'd gone in with their eyes open and expecting to die?
I think so, yes. I mean, I'm pretty sure the point of a Heroic Sacrifice is that there is actual sacrifice involved, and not just the intention of it. What Gobber and Stoick do is really more of a You Shall Not Pass!. If you're looking for a better example, Hiccup might actually count - he doesn't mean to lose his leg fighting the Queen Dragon, but it's still an example of a suicidally brave act leading to irrevocable damage.
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