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Jul 10th 2011 at 9:23:29 PM •••

There's a fair amount of Crowning Music here that hasn't been commented on - does anyone else think it might stretch enough for its own page under Video Games? It could easily be as long as the one for Dragon Age.

Edited by BentusiAvatar
Jan 3rd 2011 at 9:10:25 AM •••

There's a number of Square Peg, Round Trope cases popping up here (such as Beyond the Impossible) which I've changed or removed. I've also taken the liberty of moving YMMV tropes to a YMMV tag, and I've also changed the image from the screenshot of the Karos Graveyard to the Homeworld 1 box art (moving the screenshot to an Images tab), and removed the spiel about Yokohama Kaidashi Kikou:

(Original picture caption) "Think of it as Yokohama Kaidashi Kikou IN SPACE!! And with Stuff Blowing Up."

"The description in the caption above, for example, is actually rather fitting; Yokohama Kaidashi Kikou is a very slow-paced manga that relies mainly on sweeping visuals to tell a surprisingly expansive, deep story. (Even the backstory in the manual is a surprisingly good read.) Likewise, Homeworld attempted to stand out with an expansive, deep story told through sweeping visuals (both in-game and in stunning cutscenes) and a sharp interface at the cost of slow pacing. (Of course, superficial similarities probably help too, such as both storylines featuring women with a very high degree of cybernetic enhancement of whom the whole fate of humanity/Kushani is passed down to.)"

Comparisons to Battlestar Galactica would be a lot more appropriate, if anything, because Homeworld is more related to that series plotwise than Yokohama Kaidashi Kikou.

Besides, I feel that all the effort that whatever troper put in to justify their equating Homeworld to Yokohama Kaidashi Kikou is severely cheapening this article; it wasn't there in Web Archive versions dating back to May 2008, and it seems very uncouth to gush about a series in another, completely unrelated series' article. In fact, it almost seems like whoever wrote all that stuff about the manga is trying to use Homeworld's article to advertise Yokohama Kaidashi Kikou. That's really not fair to do to Homeworld in its own page.

Unless the developers intentionally tried to make Homeworld based on or patterned after Yokohama Kaidashi Kikou (and from all that I can see, the few similarities are coincidental despite the troper's claims), then I don't think it's right to say that it is.

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Jan 14th 2011 at 11:26:13 PM •••

Hi I'm searching for a trope to describe the extreme closeup shots of large spaceships and mecha when they are first introduced to the audience. Homeworld 1 had a great example of this in the first level where the Scaffold and mothership are featured, and again as the mothership undocks to Barber's adagio for strings. Can you help me out?

Jan 16th 2011 at 1:52:51 AM •••

You mean the introduction from Homeworld 1? There's a video of it here:

The mothership launch starts at 2:60.

If you're looking for a site with pictures of the other starships, though, you might try Homeworld Shipyards. It also has a lot of information on these ships from the strategy guides and manuals.

Feb 10th 2011 at 12:05:24 AM •••

I really don't think the game breakers trope is YMMV, salvage corvettes let you get much more powerful units for free, especially the multibeam frigates. It's not especially difficult either, unless you are trying to get those turanic missile corvettes.

Feb 10th 2011 at 6:32:39 PM •••

Go take a look at the actual page for Game-Breaker, adulus, and note what the banner says.

TV Tropes, over the past year, has made an effort to move tropes that provoke a lot of arguing and Justifying Edits on the main page to tabs where it's clearly marked that not everyone is going to share the same opinion.

The very concept of a gameplay element making the game ridiculously easy is classified as a Your Mileage May Vary trope, therefore all examples of them need to go in the YMMV tab, regardless of what you personally think is YMMV and what is not.

In fact, that you argue this game's Game-Breaker is not a case of Your Mileage May Vary could very well be a meta case of Your Mileage May Vary at work. Or maybe just a stubborn refusal to believe that there might be a lot of people out there who think Salvage Corvettes are hardly a game breaker at all.

In short: If you're unhappy with the fact that a Game-Breaker cannot be passed off as something universally agreed upon, you need to take that up with people at the Trope Repair Shop and ask them to reclassify Game-Breaker as a main page trope.

I doubt that will happen, though.

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