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Jun 17th 2011 at 12:53:01 PM •••

Um, after the comic about robots and being shut off being like death, can we add an Accidental Nightmare Fuel entry?

Feb 21st 2011 at 10:29:09 PM •••

Whats with the superspoilers at the wham episode entry? Any reason normal spoiler isn't enough?

Jan 3rd 2011 at 6:06:48 PM •••

It's probably too soon to tell, but it seems like Coyote's last line is an example of Childfree Is Not Allowed.

Edited by albino-ottsel
Dec 8th 2010 at 8:55:22 PM •••

Should Tom's tendency to repeatedly explain who Eglamore is whenever he appears in the comic be a Running Gag? He's done it quite a few times, at least once an arc (provided, of course, that Eggers is in the arc).

Nov 30th 2010 at 8:26:28 AM •••

I added some Out-of-Character Moment entry which I wanted to edit due to development, but it was removed. I do not know what it said anymore and it's not in the history. Can I know why it was deleted? You see, Annie is currently really acting like someone who's trying to 'Mindrape' Reynard. Evil smile and all. She never have been acting so weird, she usually is calm and logical. That's why I added it. So please someone explain why it was deleted.

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Nov 30th 2010 at 10:08:54 AM •••

It's still in the history. At the bottom of the page click the (show 200 more entries) button and it'll show up. Here it is for easy access though:

  • Out-of-Character Moment: Annie who was just told to hold a secret which would hurt Rey ,and eventually the whole court, if he knew about it. For barely any reason Annie goes a bit insane and seems trying to brake Raynard with the Awful Truth. This is a pretty big What T He Hell Hero for Annie and she also acts completely different from what we've seen. She's usually polite and kind.

Reason someone removed:

  • "Polite and kind" does not make up the whole of her personality. We have seen nothing to suggest that she can't be petty and bitter when her family is being insulted (which is not "no reason").

Nov 30th 2010 at 1:06:51 PM •••

Oh, I see, thank you. Hmm, hmm. I agree that we do not know much about Annie yet but it seems that insults and stress do not affect her that much. Like in the first comic sfter being 'insulted' or her behaviour towards Coyote. She doesn't seem to do unneceseary things. She did become angry towards Mort about him 'claiming' her. I guess you are right that we do not know Annie enough to say this. But does that mean that if she never acts all psycho again we can list this moment?

Nov 30th 2010 at 1:32:12 PM •••

First I didn't remove it but I do agree with its removal. There are a lot of quick trope additions after a major event occurs (for instance the whole Moral Event Horizon at the top of the page) that I feel we need to wait and see the ramifications.

Yes, she's angry and appears out of character at the moment, but there might be a reason for this that's revealed later. Plus I have to agree that Annie has had her angry moments especially when her family is concerned.

Edited by UncloudedTJ
Dec 4th 2010 at 3:47:20 PM •••

I agree, my fast assumption makes me an example of Fan Dumb. I am ashamed.

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Nov 14th 2010 at 7:31:06 PM •••

Can anyone explain to me how Magic-Powered Pseudoscience applies to this comic? Because MPS is about a magical device that the creator tries to pass off as scientific, or which they themselves believe to be scientific. Whereas all the magitek in GC is acknowledged as such by its creator (like the Donlan's magic computer) or was created by someone long-dead so we have no way of knowing whether or not he tried to pass it off as science (viz. Diego's robots).

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May 25th 2010 at 3:31:45 AM •••

Do we have a trope for... um, let's see how to describe this.

A character (Bob) Kicks The Dog by treating a (minor) character in a callous manner. Normally we'd be just like "yeah he's just a bad person." However, for those paying attention, this action - despite in general not jumping out as un-Bob-like - directly contradicts the way the character acted toward a similar (or same) character previously. Which gives clues to the possibility of a Something He Would Never Do, meaning he's possessed or controlled or insane or something.

The specific example I'm thinking of here is Jack killing that robot. I didn't think much of that act except as establishing him as (minorly) villainous, as it's out-of-keeping with Annie's compassion toward artifical intelligences. However, I just recalled that this is the same lad who went and fixed up a robot cow who was having trouble.

It's possible that the detail of the cow was something else (e.g., research into manipulating electronics or robots). But if indeed it was a compassionate act toward a robot, then the current lack of compassion toward a robot is a clue to a personality change. And I'd like to know if we have a trope that covers this, because it would be nice to state this with greater concision.

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May 25th 2010 at 6:43:50 AM •••

Not sure. Someone here might be able to tell you, but you can ask over at the Lost and Found page as well (with phrasing for those unfamiliar with Gunnerkrigg Court).

May 4th 2010 at 4:15:22 PM •••

I want to get rid of this entry under "Moral Event Horizon:

He did so because he does not like Reynardine. And as he quite rightly points out, Reynardine tried to KILL Annie when they first met. People are surprisingly quick to ignore this fact.

On the basis that 1: Trying to do something does not necessarily put one over the Horizon; 2: Rey wasn't technically trying to kill her. He was trying to escape, and (According to Word of Tom) get Eglamore/ the court Magicians/whoever to find a way to stop people from dying when he leaves their bodies, and 3: Annie has basically forgiven him for trying to kill her anyway. To wit: "I don't care! He's my friend!"

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May 4th 2010 at 4:20:32 PM •••

If Rey had possessed her, Annie would've been as good as dead. And he knew this.

May 4th 2010 at 5:51:17 PM •••

Agreed, a lot of character development has happened since he tried to posses her so we don't treat Rey as evil as we originally did. If Jack had done this shortly after Annie had found out about Rey being in the doll it would have had a very different effect on her.

May 5th 2010 at 8:48:41 PM •••

The implication that her forgiveness negates the fact that he still took that action is...alarming.

In addition, trying to do it and failing /through no fault of your own/ does in deed put you over the event horizon. Because, had outside forces not stopped you, it would have happened. Had you (or he, as the case may be) failed due to having a change of heart, that would be different.

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May 6th 2010 at 12:05:21 AM •••

...I don't think you know what this trope actually means.

Moral Event Horizon is the point on the good-evil axis that a character cannot cross and still remain sympathetic. I sincerely hope you aren't arguing that Rey is not a sympathetic character, because that is clearly not the case.

May 6th 2010 at 12:57:49 AM •••

I was under the impression this was an argument that Jack hadn't crossed the Moral Event Horizon. I don't think we should be saying that Rey had crossed it as he's had a lot of character development since the event in question and has become sympathetic.

Edited by Unclouded_TJ
May 6th 2010 at 10:29:28 AM •••

Well, I think considerably less of Jack than I do of Rey at this point, but I don't think he's crossed the event horizon either.

May 6th 2010 at 10:57:05 PM •••

My argument was actually that Rey was an attempted murderer and therefore Jack's treatment of him was justified, which would therefore mean he had not crossed the line in question.

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May 7th 2010 at 5:18:00 AM •••

The penalty for attempted murder is not Death. Reynardine is being forcibly ripped from his wolf toy body in a way that likely has a potential to kill him. And since Jack knows Rey tried to kill Annie, he likely knows that he can't survive without a body either. Disproportionate Retribution.

Edited by SalFishFin
May 7th 2010 at 6:08:18 AM •••

Except Rey has actually killed before. At least twice from what we know of. Annie would've been the third he'd killed. Once was a mistake, twice is a pattern, and Rey was going for three times with Annie and again these are the only the ones we know about. Rey has likely changed for the better now but please stop acting like he's some innocent victim here.

Jul 5th 2010 at 3:14:12 PM •••

The penalty for murder is QUITE OFTEN Death, actually. Stating something as if it's a fact when said statement is contradicted by reality does not support your position, but rather undermines it by highlighting inconsistencies.

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