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Oct 4th 2015 at 2:22:16 PM •••

I have a question. How come this page is about actual examples of this trope, but Jumping The Shark only allows in universe examples? If this page allows actual examples, that should too.

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Oct 5th 2015 at 12:17:49 AM •••

Cause the latter page is a complaining page and we are stricter on these than on praise pages.

Oct 5th 2015 at 3:47:01 AM •••

So why don't we put it in Darth Wiki?

Oct 5th 2015 at 5:54:17 AM •••

Well, we already have the Dethroning Moment of Suck pages. It's not exactly the same idea (JTS is when a series starts to go downhill, DMOS is when it hits rock bottom), but there's a lot of overlap between the two.

Aug 17th 2014 at 1:12:28 PM •••

Cut from the comic book subpage:

  • This trope is referenced in The Simpsons comic story "A Brand New Burns", where Lou the cop compares the new, friendlier Mr. Burns to "Spock when he had the beard".

That's not Growing the Beard, that's Beard of Evil. And even then it's not a reference to the trope, but to a specific episode of Star Trek: The Original Series.

Mar 19th 2013 at 9:10:35 PM •••

This is a YMMV trope right? Cause one viewers Beard can easily be another Shark, or visa versa. I feel that way abut the Trope Namer in fact.

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Jun 10th 2013 at 6:36:48 PM •••

Should this maybe be moved to sugar wiki? With Jumping the Shark also moved to darth wiki? After all, they are VERY subjective.

Or alternatively, they could be left on the main wiki but have their examples lists scrapped and reclassify them as audience reactions.

May 27th 2012 at 7:36:57 PM •••

Should we perhaps consider a large-scale cleanup based on a slightly tighter definition? We have wandering entries like Ghost In The Shell Stand Alone Complex, where it talks about how the first couple of episodes are just showing the main characters before the Laughing Man arc starts, which simply points to a few episodes of exhibition and not a distinct shift in quality/tone that "growing the beard" is all about?

Mar 21st 2011 at 9:11:31 PM •••

The discussion of JD's beard in Scrubs season 8 needs to be removed. It is in no way a reference to the TV tropes term - watching the commentaries reveals the beard was supposed to be a one-off joke in the first episode and disappear. Scheduling conflicts with Courtenay Cox, however, necessitated JD keep it through the season. It was an accident, pure and simple, and using it as a reference to this trope is fallacious at best.

Jan 17th 2011 at 10:01:00 PM •••

Enterprise? Really? Methinks it jumped the shark when it went for the easy pickings of "War on Terror... in space!!" instead of the complex and interesting ideas it flirted with in the first season and a bit. It's no accident that the show got cancelled after season 3. It had become everything it wasn't at the beginning - poorly written, poorly thought out, and poorly acted (with poor Scott Bakula doing his best to no longer be charismatic or engaging.) Show stank.

Oh, and this isn't mere opinion. 'tis objective fact.

Jan 8th 2011 at 11:19:58 PM •••

A thought occurs;

What would Jumping the Beard- or for that matter, Growing the Shark- mean? I feel that if I know that, I would achieve Trope Zen. Anyone got any ideas?

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Jun 5th 2011 at 5:59:38 AM •••

If Jumping the Shark = Lame, and Growing the Beard = awesome, then it would be a fusion of lame + awesome. It's a punk attitude: embrace your lack of talent, skill, originality. Embrace it by accepting that it's cliche, and play it ironically (like in the Playing With Tropes part of this site). In other words, movies like Wolverine, shows like Batman: Brave and Bold, and Smallville circa season... 8? The one with Doomsday. My god is it lame... but lately, so, so engrossing. I'm not even ashamed of it's Guilty Pleasure-ism.

An episode of Supernatural that starts off "Supernatural is filmed in front of a live studio audience". Embracing the lameness! (I detest the Chuck The Prophet-related eps though). To make a distinction: the Smallville eg would be Growing the Shark; the Chuck episodes of Supernatural are Jumping the Beard.

Jan 6th 2011 at 9:17:32 AM •••

I think the show Veronica Mars really took off with the episode "An Echolls Family Christmas". Thoughts?

Dec 30th 2010 at 6:08:51 PM •••

  • Neon Exodus Evangelion is not well-regarded by many an Evangelion fan partially because of this trope. In the first few chapters, Original Character DJ Croft replaces Shinji as the main character (there's a reason for this in the backstory) and more or less hogs the limelight, makes friends with just about everyone and generally shows off how cool he is. Not surprisingly, many people stop reading at this point and dismiss DJ as a Marty Stu. Then comes the battle with Leliel, and DJ's perfect facade begins to come apart at the seams, revealing a much more complex character underneath. Around the same time, the story begins to diverge farther and farther away from canon Eva until it hits full-blown AU status.

Umm, the whole point of the trope is that a show IS liked more. So how does even fit?

Nov 15th 2010 at 1:16:23 PM •••

For the love of all that is good, this must be the new page picture:

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Nov 15th 2010 at 1:17:49 PM •••

It's nice, but the site doesn't permit animated GIFs for one reason or another.

Aug 10th 2010 at 6:34:56 PM •••

Should I cut all the references to Your Mileage May Vary? It seems to be cluttering the page up a lot.

Jul 16th 2010 at 6:32:33 PM •••

Whenever I see that a TNG rerun is on, I watch long enough to see Riker. My continued viewing is dependent on him having a beard.

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Jul 16th 2010 at 6:48:40 PM •••

Maybe that was Wesley's problem; He never grew a beard, lol. Maybe if he did, that would have helped. Then again, maybe not!

Jul 27th 2010 at 12:45:55 PM •••

Wasn't he 14 or 15 when the series started? I'm 19, and still get little more than bum fluff after two weeks without shaving.

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Mar 19th 2010 at 10:37:42 AM •••

From the archive: Charred Knight: ...Super Mario Brothers was a revolutionary game that changed video games for ever, Zelda was a slightly lesser version of that. Also by your logic the point would be Super Mario Brothers 64 [sic] and Ocarina of Time, which are considered the best games in the series.

I believe there's no real consensus, on what's the "best" game (especially 2D vs 3D Mario), but from what I understand (though as pointed out in the archive, the Legend of Zelda and Super Mario series were never bad or mediocre to begin with, quite the opposite in fact, otherwise there wouldn't be a Video Game 3D Leap for them) the earlier titles Super Mario Bros. 3 and The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past is seen as the point where they really worked out what's right. I'm not disagreeing with the viewpoint, it's just that you can't get fans to agree on the best instalment of such long-running series.

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Apr 12th 2010 at 10:54:03 AM •••

I'd just like to say, looking at the image. That I didn't even realize they were the SAME PERSON

May 25th 2010 at 1:59:21 PM •••

He looks more distinguished and officer-like. Or something.