Tarnizial
It said no real life examples. However, if real life examples were allowed, than I would have to say the most evil chancellor was Adolf Hitler (chancellor of Germany).
Bismarck created Germany, and he opposed overseas imperialism (this is why Germany had so few colonies in Africa; those were founded by private corporations).
Theres no realistic or reasonable way to include Hitler without Steve Bannon. The only difference is the man he was chacellor to was not completely evil.
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Cut these:
- Regardless of his claims, it's been implied several times that Varys might very well be scheming to bring the Targaryens back into power. Even if this isn't evil, it's still fulfills the "plotting against the throne" part of the trope.
- Not to mention Varys is seen scheming with Illyrio to help turn the nobility against each other so that Dany can swoop in and conquer them all. This would make him precisely one of those 'players who hurts the commoners for his own gain' that he rails against when speaking to Ned.
I sugest changing the name to The Vizir or a derivative thereof. Because thats what the trope is really called. You say he plays The Vizir character in this show, everybody knows what you are talking about. Say Evil Chancellor and people wonder if you talking german politics.
Trope namer is 1001 nights.
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True, but the Vizirs in the actual 1001 nights are usually not evil. This perception is due to an oversimplification which has a lot to do with European prejudice and limited perception of Islamic societies.
Edited by Vasha
I went and ran this down because the Evil Vizir is usually Jafar. Turns out that the Good Vizir Giafar in Arabian Nights and the Evil Vizir Jafar in Aladdin are the same guy, Ja'far ibn Yahya, the Grand Vizir to Abbasid Caliph Haroun al Raschid. Why that is, how he changed, the deponent knoweth not.
The early bird gets the worm, which is great if you like worms for breakfast.
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Which variation of this quote does it count as if the head advisor/vice ruler is a Reasonalbe Authority Figure and the actual ruler itself is The Chamberlain?
"Think like a man of action, act like a man of thinking, and don't be a dumbass."
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I dont' understand the strikethrough in the trope description. Why is it there? Should I just cut the part that's struck through?
Anyone played Adam Cadre's Varicella, and have an opinion on whether she'd fit here? She's not a chancellor per se, but the goal of the game is to become the regent for the (5 year old) king, and some of the acts she commits to get the job are quite evil.
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Is there a trope for scheming regents and would-be regents? Lord knows there's enough of them in real life, let alone fiction. And it's rather different from the situation of a chancellor.
I moved the The Golden Voyage Of Sinbad example to The Good Chancellor because it fits better there.
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Shouldn't ALL the "Exceptions/Inversions/Aversions" be moved there, now that it exists?
I've pulled this:
Mostly because it's not really an example of the trope, but also because I feel like it's a rather idealistic interpretation of the end of Men at Arms. The impression I got from that moment when history stood in the balance before Lord V gave Carrot back his sword, is that he could stop Carrot becoming king very easily, but doing so would be messy and wasteful if it doesn't currently seem necessary.
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