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According to this thread, any examples of this trope that aren't In-Universe or have citations are to be cut. If that is the case, I think the In-Universe label on the page is misleading, since reviews that cite this reaction are allowed examples despite not being in-universe. Reworking that description to be like Unfortunate Implications (another trope requiring citations unless in-universe) would eliminate the ambiguity. Should we?
Update: this thread argues that the in-universe requirement for this page is not working. Changing "In-Universe Examples:" to "In-Universe or Cited Examples:" would easily fix that. Should I?
Update: word of mod is that it was locked due to a clean-up of TRS threads due to being backlogged, and no decision was arrived at.
Final Update: got permission from mod to revise "In-Universe Examples:" to "In-Universe or Cited Examples:". Problem solved.
TBH I like the idea of Cited Examples, because this wiki is informative, but otherwise should allow criticism of bad writing.
It looks like we are not bothering with the In-Universe examples only rule for this page. Should out of universe ones be deleted? Should we keep examples that cite reviews that reference the concept? Or just delete the In-Universe examples only part of the page?
Trope Repair Shop is thisaway.
I've deleted the examples that aren't In-Universe or don't cite a specific source for the Audience Reaction, is that acceptable?
Considering the way that this trope seems to attract a lot of Complaining About Shows You Don't Like, perhaps it would be better for us to simply define the term, and remove all of the examples.
Might want to do so. You'll have to propose it in the Trope Repair Shop though.
"Unsympathetic" is not the same as "unengaging". "I don't care for these people" versus "I don't care about these people." None of the characters in Goodfellas are sympathetic, but they're still interesting people whose inevitable downfall promises to be entertaining. Or in the last act of Hamlet, to pick something more highbrow.
As far as I understand it, this trope is universally bad. If you don't care what happens (be it either reward or punishment) to any of the characters, why bother continuing to follow the story?
Would in-universe examples count? Like a character who openly states that he doesn't care what happens to anyone?
No, it's an Audience Reactions trope. Whatever the characters think about each other, the audience should at the very least care what happens to some of them.
Cutting the Exalted example, as it reeks of complaining about games you don't like.
I saw Prometheus, and discovered that there weren't any characters that I cared about, and really didn't feel for any of the deaths that happened. Did anyone else feel this way? I want to make sure that other people felt like the characters were bland before adding Prometheus as an example.
Should we really use this discussion page to complain about shows we don't like? We can't do it on the main page so why should we do it here?
And to answer your question, no I do not feel the same way as you do about the film. I liked it to be honest.
Congrats from the examples of this page. I was expecting a useless hate fest but almost all the examples have been careful restricted to things which are actually true or throw a bit of life on the subject
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