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Apr 2nd 2018 at 9:21:50 AM •••

This is basically Homestuck for me.

Nov 28th 2016 at 7:22:00 PM •••

According to this thread, any examples of this trope that aren't In-Universe or have citations are to be cut. If that is the case, I think the In-Universe label on the page is misleading, since reviews that cite this reaction are allowed examples despite not being in-universe. Reworking that description to be like Unfortunate Implications (another trope requiring citations unless in-universe) would eliminate the ambiguity. Should we?

Update: this thread argues that the in-universe requirement for this page is not working. Changing "In-Universe Examples:" to "In-Universe or Cited Examples:" would easily fix that. Should I?

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Nov 29th 2016 at 3:15:09 PM •••

Update: word of mod is that it was locked due to a clean-up of TRS threads due to being backlogged, and no decision was arrived at.

Nov 30th 2016 at 10:28:02 AM •••

Final Update: got permission from mod to revise "In-Universe Examples:" to "In-Universe or Cited Examples:". Problem solved.

Dec 2nd 2016 at 6:47:54 AM •••

TBH I like the idea of Cited Examples, because this wiki is informative, but otherwise should allow criticism of bad writing.

Jun 16th 2015 at 4:51:56 PM •••

It looks like we are not bothering with the In-Universe examples only rule for this page. Should out of universe ones be deleted? Should we keep examples that cite reviews that reference the concept? Or just delete the In-Universe examples only part of the page?

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Jun 17th 2015 at 1:49:31 PM •••

I've deleted the examples that aren't In-Universe or don't cite a specific source for the Audience Reaction, is that acceptable?

Sep 8th 2014 at 8:22:54 PM •••

Considering the way that this trope seems to attract a lot of Complaining About Shows You Don't Like, perhaps it would be better for us to simply define the term, and remove all of the examples.

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Sep 8th 2014 at 11:32:51 PM •••

Might want to do so. You'll have to propose it in the Trope Repair Shop though.

Jun 11th 2013 at 2:46:21 PM •••

  • All of the characters in The Threepenny Opera an example of this. Kurt Weill and Bertolt Brecht did this intentionally, as not a single character is sympathetic in their motives, actions, or expressions. This was in part because it was a political commentary on capitalism and corruption. An example of tropes are not bad.

"Unsympathetic" is not the same as "unengaging". "I don't care for these people" versus "I don't care about these people." None of the characters in Goodfellas are sympathetic, but they're still interesting people whose inevitable downfall promises to be entertaining. Or in the last act of Hamlet, to pick something more highbrow.

As far as I understand it, this trope is universally bad. If you don't care what happens (be it either reward or punishment) to any of the characters, why bother continuing to follow the story?

May 17th 2013 at 4:49:44 PM •••

Would in-universe examples count? Like a character who openly states that he doesn't care what happens to anyone?

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Jun 11th 2013 at 2:38:47 PM •••

No, it's an Audience Reactions trope. Whatever the characters think about each other, the audience should at the very least care what happens to some of them.

Feb 10th 2013 at 7:30:40 PM •••

Cutting the Exalted example, as it reeks of complaining about games you don't like.

Sep 17th 2012 at 10:39:17 AM •••

I saw Prometheus, and discovered that there weren't any characters that I cared about, and really didn't feel for any of the deaths that happened. Did anyone else feel this way? I want to make sure that other people felt like the characters were bland before adding Prometheus as an example.

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Oct 1st 2012 at 11:15:20 PM •••

Should we really use this discussion page to complain about shows we don't like? We can't do it on the main page so why should we do it here?

And to answer your question, no I do not feel the same way as you do about the film. I liked it to be honest.

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Jan 27th 2012 at 12:20:45 PM •••

Congrats from the examples of this page. I was expecting a useless hate fest but almost all the examples have been careful restricted to things which are actually true or throw a bit of life on the subject

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