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Mar 20th 2012 at 1:43:54 PM •••

Surprisingly, the film North, uses this. Apparently, director Rob Reiner wanted to make a touching fable that would be his very own Wizard of Oz. What he failed to realize is that he made his own touching fable seven years before.

Granted, he may have considered it more of William Goldman's work. Just throwing out an idea as to how he could have wanting to go through with it.

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Jun 1st 2019 at 6:56:21 AM •••

Page is getting a little long — should the real life and fiction subsections be split into separate pages? Also the \'This page is Trivia\' disclaimer is confusing, since it only applies to real life examples. If the text can\'t be modified to say this does allow in-universe examples on a work\'s page, maybe we could remove it and just put a disclaimer in bold noting the distinction at the top of the description?

Jan 2nd 2011 at 4:48:54 PM •••

The Homicide: Life On the Street example looks like a misplaced Needs More Love entry. If it does count, could someone who's actually seen the show fix it up a bit? I would, but I don't know anything about the series except the title.

Dec 30th 2010 at 12:05:27 PM •••

Why did the page say that it was subjective?

Oct 5th 2010 at 3:27:32 PM •••

I hate bringing this up, but can we please remove "Y'know what? Us." from real life examples? Please? It's not that I don't think TV Tropes is art, but it seems needlessly self-congratulatory, like "Oh yeah, we're so damn selfless and awesome". I'm also pretty sure that no everyone here is doing it for the art, that a lot of people just do it because they're bored, or think they have something funny or intersting to point out.

Also, I got the impression that TV Tropes had something of an "invisible hand" policy. No one arguing with eachother, no one using real-life examples on the main page, etc., like the pages just magically edited and updated themselves. I've seen several pages where Tropers have said used TV tropers as examples, and it makes me uncomfortable.

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Jan 2nd 2011 at 12:18:38 PM •••

Art is subjective. Some see this as art.

Aug 23rd 2010 at 12:26:44 PM •••

This is all baseless speculation and an excuse to Gush About Creators You Like.

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Sep 6th 2010 at 9:55:32 AM •••

No. There are plenty of tropes that are like this but negative. They have standards and so does this page.

Apr 11th 2010 at 4:45:55 PM •••

Explain your reasons. The definition looks value-neutral to me.

Jul 16th 2010 at 7:23:05 PM •••

How about changing the trope's name to "Art For Art's Sake"? A friend told me that artists tend to use that phrase, quite a bit.

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