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How about stand alone works that are dark without being compared to others? I know that Berserk is Dark Fantasy, or a lot of Cyberpunk works are dark per se, without being compared to one another.
No, that doesn\'t fit the trope. This is for sequels and seasons that are darker than their prdecessors.
There are a lot of examples given that aren't Darker and Edgier, they're just Dark and Edgy. Dollhouse is mentioned as being Darker than Joss Whedon's other work. Ok, so what? People do different tone work. But this trope should be (or seems to be anyway) used for a change occurring in a work itself, or in remakes/reboots. Comparisons between completely separate works shouldn't be included.
Why is the "Comic Books" section mostly made of Gamer examples?
Could we get a Canon page image here, please?
What exactly is a Real Life example?
An example that occurs in reality, outside of fiction. And Real Life examples are not allowed here unfortunately.
I mean how would a Real Life example occur in Darker and Edgier?
The world got Darker and Edgier during the times of World War One and World War Two, then it got Lighter and Softer for a bit before becoming Darker and Edgier during the Cold War. Now, it's Lighter and Softer, though it's gotten slightly Darker and Edgier with the war and 9/11 and everything.
It was also Darker and Edgier during the dinosaur age, because the world was filled with vicious sharp-toothed predators out to kill you. After they went extinct, it got Lighter and Softer because the world was then populated by cute furry creatures.
In any case, I can't understand why Real Life examples aren't allowed. Anyone can agree that the world got Darker and Edgier during the World Wars. And during the Dark Ages.
If Real Life examples were allowed it would potentially start a flame war. If you want to talk about how dark the world is/was, Take It To The Forums.
Just not THIS SITE'S forums.
I believe that we should make Grimdark redirect to Tastes Like Dirt instead of to here. Does anyone know how to do that?
Are you crazy?
We should rename that trope into Grimdark
I agree with Death Cloud, that sounds much better.
I agree with Master Hand. As the Tasted Like Dirt entry says, "Darker and Edgier is relative; i.e., in comparison to an earlier work in the franchise, this work is a lot edgier. This is an absolute trope: all examples are Grim Dark from beginning to end."
Either someone needs to change this so it's more neutral in tone, or it needs to be split into Darker And Better and Darker And Worse, since as it stands, the article is entirly in the "Darker And Worse" category. Remember people TROPES ARE NOT BAD! There are lots of examples of works that are made better with this treatment. This article is far too one-sided.
A reasonable complaint. I rewrote the article and cut a bunch of the examples. From this point onwards, feel free to nuke anything that reeks of complaining about shows for being too dark and edgy.
I liked the whole "grimdark grimdark grimdark" title blurb. Motion to put it back. Just because there's some good reason why the trope doesn't deserve how much it does get made fun of, this still doesn't overrule the Rule of Funny.
I dunno. I think the Bum review quote works well, too.
Those posts are almost 3 years old.
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