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Sep 21st 2018 at 11:13:45 AM •••

How about stand alone works that are dark without being compared to others? I know that Berserk is Dark Fantasy, or a lot of Cyberpunk works are dark per se, without being compared to one another.

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Sep 21st 2018 at 1:56:36 PM •••

No, that doesn\'t fit the trope. This is for sequels and seasons that are darker than their prdecessors.

May 28th 2013 at 7:30:01 PM •••

There are a lot of examples given that aren't Darker and Edgier, they're just Dark and Edgy. Dollhouse is mentioned as being Darker than Joss Whedon's other work. Ok, so what? People do different tone work. But this trope should be (or seems to be anyway) used for a change occurring in a work itself, or in remakes/reboots. Comparisons between completely separate works shouldn't be included.

Feb 8th 2012 at 2:42:20 AM •••

Why is the "Comic Books" section mostly made of Gamer examples?

Jul 30th 2011 at 8:34:41 PM •••

An example that occurs in reality, outside of fiction. And Real Life examples are not allowed here unfortunately.

Sep 21st 2011 at 4:43:45 PM •••

The world got Darker and Edgier during the times of World War One and World War Two, then it got Lighter and Softer for a bit before becoming Darker and Edgier during the Cold War. Now, it's Lighter and Softer, though it's gotten slightly Darker and Edgier with the war and 9/11 and everything.

Sep 21st 2011 at 8:02:30 PM •••

It was also Darker and Edgier during the dinosaur age, because the world was filled with vicious sharp-toothed predators out to kill you. After they went extinct, it got Lighter and Softer because the world was then populated by cute furry creatures.

In any case, I can't understand why Real Life examples aren't allowed. Anyone can agree that the world got Darker and Edgier during the World Wars. And during the Dark Ages.

Edited by Kingcobrasaurus
Oct 4th 2012 at 7:21:34 PM •••

If Real Life examples were allowed it would potentially start a flame war. If you want to talk about how dark the world is/was, Take It To The Forums.

Sep 25th 2010 at 4:34:57 PM •••

I believe that we should make Grimdark redirect to Tastes Like Dirt instead of to here. Does anyone know how to do that?

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Mar 10th 2011 at 1:26:20 PM •••

We should rename that trope into Grimdark

Jan 20th 2012 at 5:40:00 AM •••

I agree with Master Hand. As the Tasted Like Dirt entry says, "Darker and Edgier is relative; i.e., in comparison to an earlier work in the franchise, this work is a lot edgier. This is an absolute trope: all examples are Grim Dark from beginning to end."

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May 23rd 2010 at 1:38:54 PM •••

Either someone needs to change this so it's more neutral in tone, or it needs to be split into Darker And Better and Darker And Worse, since as it stands, the article is entirly in the "Darker And Worse" category. Remember people TROPES ARE NOT BAD! There are lots of examples of works that are made better with this treatment. This article is far too one-sided.

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May 23rd 2010 at 7:24:26 PM •••

A reasonable complaint. I rewrote the article and cut a bunch of the examples. From this point onwards, feel free to nuke anything that reeks of complaining about shows for being too dark and edgy.

Edited by SomeGuy
Jun 11th 2010 at 8:57:52 AM •••

I liked the whole "grimdark grimdark grimdark" title blurb. Motion to put it back. Just because there's some good reason why the trope doesn't deserve how much it does get made fun of, this still doesn't overrule the Rule of Funny.

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Apr 17th 2013 at 3:50:08 PM •••

I dunno. I think the Bum review quote works well, too.

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