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MrStranger616 Since: Feb, 2020
Jan 11th 2021 at 9:45:35 AM •••

God, I HATE when people do shit like this! Like, if you're not gonna put forth your best effort, you shouldn't be making the media! Don't half-ass it!

TheNohrianDarkKnight The Fire Rises Since: Jun, 2016
The Fire Rises
Jun 27th 2016 at 12:30:54 PM •••

Why was No Dub for You removed from the sub tropes list? Isn't not dubbing the rest of a series despite having some popularity technically an example of not caring about a product?

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Ferot_Dreadnaught Since: Mar, 2015
Jun 27th 2016 at 12:42:27 PM •••

I think it is because one lack of care by one not involved in its initial production is not enough to qualify (this requires every aspect of the productions, like script and animation, show a lack of care). There is a effort to repair this trope for this reason.

Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010
Jun 27th 2016 at 12:45:12 PM •••

Or because it's less "not caring" and more "not being able to afford."

A work can be completely beloved by its translators, but if they can't afford English voice acting, that's out of their control.

Not to mention a lot of people hate dubs. With a burning passion. Skipping a bad dub may be for the best.

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TheNohrianDarkKnight Since: Jun, 2016
Jun 27th 2016 at 12:57:27 PM •••

But it also says that "lack of money" is part of having be part of "not caring" to make a good product.

BattleMaster Since: Feb, 2015
Feb 24th 2017 at 5:16:25 PM •••

Many works are considered too niche for it to be profitable to make a dub release.

VAIAZ Since: Jun, 2015
Jan 13th 2017 at 12:51:47 PM •••

Where is the history of the old page? I need to consult it because there was info about an Italian Pokémon magazine that made glaring errors throughout its history.

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Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010
Jan 13th 2017 at 1:10:51 PM •••

Here you go.

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PhantomDusclops92 Since: Oct, 2010
Feb 11th 2017 at 11:35:21 AM •••

That part is actually in Video Games. I know because I'm the one who wrote it.

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Gardetrace Since: Dec, 2015
Nov 10th 2016 at 3:33:32 PM •••

Why the hell was the trope's conditions changed? It used to talk about moments where something didn't have the audiences wishes in mind and despite many people complaining about it, the creators do nothing to improve it. Now, we have to get actual confirmation from the creators that they really didn't care. That greatly limits this trope. You used to have so much dirt on the WWE games about this until you changed the rules. What gives? If it ain't broke, don't fix it. You don't know what the hell you're doing!

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TropesForever Since: Sep, 2016
Nov 10th 2016 at 5:17:30 PM •••

We don't want dirt. This site is not for complaining.

TropesForever Since: Sep, 2016
Oct 22nd 2016 at 1:46:28 PM •••

Why is this on the Derivative Works index? Sure it can happen in them, but is by no means exclusive to it.

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DazVoz Since: Aug, 2013
Jan 9th 2016 at 5:49:39 AM •••

Seems as though many of the examples on this page shouldn't be here. A couple of examples given are the ceramic gun from Die Hard 2, and Zemeckis's lack of faithfulness to the original poem Beowulf. Like many films, Die Hard 2 used a firearm that doesn't exist. This isn't an example of "not caring", just a choice to invent something in order to aid a plot point. Similarly, Zemeckis;s decision to depart utterly from the poem is an artistic choice, not a matter of not caring. Per the introduction, this page is about cases where "A strange combination of the lack of money, time, expertise, enthusiasm, and simple talent sabotages the production." Perhaps we should have a cull.

VAIAZ Since: Jun, 2015
Dec 26th 2015 at 9:10:14 AM •••

Do you think The Legend of Rah and the Muggles would fit in here?

The "book" was published only because of the infamous lawsuit she filed against J.K. Rowling because she allegedly "plagiarized" her work, which is full of inexcusable scientific inaccuracies, bad grammar, reudundant telling and one of the worst cases of Designated Hero and Designated Villain I've read about.

Also, when she (re-)published the book, she didn't even bother doing a spellcheck and published it as it is.

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PacificGreen Since: Sep, 2014
Oct 28th 2015 at 10:35:54 AM •••

How does the page image illustrate the trope? Is it just that the title is so hard to read?

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Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010
Oct 28th 2015 at 10:45:03 AM •••

Read the the title out loud, making sure to read every word.

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PacificGreen Since: Sep, 2014
Oct 28th 2015 at 11:05:10 AM •••

Oooh, I get it. Wow, that's...surprisingly easy to miss.

Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010
Oct 28th 2015 at 1:09:56 PM •••

... maybe you (removes sunglasses) ... just didn't care?

YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!

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Yuki-Akuma Yuki Akuma, the king of reckoning Since: Nov, 2013
Yuki Akuma, the king of reckoning
Feb 6th 2015 at 7:05:55 PM •••

Mario Kart 8 and Super Smash Bros. for Wii U could both easily count for many reasons. Awful gameplay, ugly visuals, millions of bugs making them unplayable, not to mention that these were some very anticipated games for 2014 that could have saved the Wii U, yet Nintendo just rushed them out for the sake of making money - and not even that worked.

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Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010
Feb 9th 2015 at 5:46:14 AM •••

No. Just no.

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Yuki-Akuma Yuki Akuma, the king of reckoning Since: Nov, 2013
Yuki Akuma, the king of reckoning
Mar 12th 2014 at 10:43:16 PM •••

I would like to nominate Apple for not caring. I own two iOS systems. A Gen 3 iPod Touch, and a Gen 5 iPad Mini. The former has multiple glitches, while the latter constantly resets, and twice recently, freezes and crashes. Both are guilty, but the Gen 5 iPad suffers even worse, because despite being two generations later it actually fares worse than the Gen 3 iPod. If you ask me personally, Apple either don't test their products enough, or this trope. EDIT: Sorry, turns out the 'Gen 5 freezes' comment is not an internal problem, it has something to do with a keyboard accessory glitch that I have overcome. Sorry.

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moshimoshi44 Since: Oct, 2010
Nov 17th 2011 at 5:45:33 AM •••

A lot of entries fit other tropes much better e.g. the dark knight one sounds more like did not do research, the golden compass adaption decay although there probably there already but felt like this trope was shoehorned for TDK probably someone with that occupation. The golden compass entry was also a bit inaccurate because it was subjugated to a case of executive meddling. Also what was with the disney vanity plate entry? That's not even a work!

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captainsandwich Since: Jan, 2012
Apr 22nd 2012 at 1:39:06 AM •••

If you think its a big enough issue, bring it to the Trope Repair Shop for miss use. i have noticed this too (but I am talking about links to the page).

johnnye Since: Jan, 2001
Dec 14th 2013 at 7:57:14 PM •••

It's been at least once. As I recall, there was so goddamn much wrong with it that people didn't know where to start fixing, and the discussion got closed. There's opposition to just cutting it, because it's an old page with a lot of links, despite the fact that apparently for all that time it hasn't had the first clue what it's supposed to be about and most of the links are just generalised Complaining.

SamMax Since: Sep, 2011
Feb 15th 2013 at 7:29:39 AM •••

Is it just me, or does the caption change every few months?

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Thecommander236 Since: Aug, 2011
Feb 17th 2013 at 7:31:34 PM •••

Check the history records and Ctrl F "caption". And you'll find out.

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FearOfTheUnknown Since: Jan, 2011
Oct 27th 2012 at 2:58:09 PM •••

I'm going to have to dispute this example (from Mass Effect 3):

  • The whole game may count. It is unfinished in countless places and the infamously bad ending seems to be phoned in at the last moment. Having been forced to release an unfinished game would have been an excuse, but the developers justified it as all being deliberate artistic choices. Either they lied, or they really didn't care.

While the ending is very contentious and probably, maybe, belongs here given that basically two DL Cs came out before it made moderately more sense, the "unfinished in countless places" comes out of nowhere. Basically, the game has been very highly praised in pretty much all regards except the "wtfness" of the ending. Some specific examples are going to be needed.

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Zaptech Since: Oct, 2010
Feb 8th 2013 at 10:05:58 PM •••

I don't even think that the game itself really should be mentioned here. This trope is specifically for terrible production values and efforts across an entire work, and for all its other faults, Mass Effect 3 had stellar production values and effort put into it. They Just Didn't Care was pulled from the Mass Effect 3 YMMV page for this exact reason.

WillBGood Since: Jan, 2011
Jul 17th 2011 at 5:36:15 PM •••

Quite a lot of the entries here don't seem to be about production values at all, but about Adaptation Decay, Did Not Do the Research, or Executive Meddling (and the Ko F entry that I opted to remove just smacked too much of someone complaining a thing was RUINED FOREVER).

I could do more aggressive paring-down, but I'm a little worried about overreaching my authority.

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WillBGood Since: Jan, 2011
Jul 17th 2011 at 6:11:11 PM •••

Ah what the heck, I'll go ahead and pare aggressively; worst-case scenario the page can be restored from an earlier version.

Pulled: All Anime/Manga entries except the Dragon Ball movie dub and Yu-Gi-Oh Abridged comment entries: rest are more Did Not Do the Research. Film: Scarlet Letter entry (really Adaptation Decay) Film: Hackers entry (too much natter) Film: Dead Like Me (Adaptation Decay) Film: Highlander (which seems to be commenting more on Highlander 2— which might warrant its own entry if someone wants to write it) Literature: Friday the 13th (Adaptation Decay, maybe.) Literature: Disney's Aladdin (Did Not Do the Research, or maybe they did according to the sub-entry) TV: Buffy the Vampire Slayer (Did Not Do the Research, though what exactly they got wrong wasn't even detailed) TV: iCarly (kind of lacking detail) TV: Tales from the Neverending Story (Adaptation Decay) Entire Theatre folder — both examples look more like Adaptation Decay or at least Alternate Character Interpretation of a crazy sort rather than shoddy production values. Video Games: It'd almost be easier to list what wasn't removed for actually being about Adaptation Decay, Didn't Do the Research, Your Mileage May Vary, or even Seasonal Rot, Blind Idiot Translation, or Contemptible Cover. Western Animation: Jungle Book (it's either Adaptation Decay or Executive Meddling) Western Animation: Transformers Beast Machines (mostly a big fat Take That at Dan Di Dio) Western Animation: Tom & Jerry the Movie (just an entry writer ranting about why it sucked) Western Animation: Bionicle (Adaptation Decay) Western Animation: Captain N (Adaptation Decay) Western Animation: Busy World of Richard Scarry (are the historical segments supposed to be educational or are they dictated by Rule of Funny?)

Yeah, a lot of stuff pulled out— and there's still an entry or two I'm not sure belong. This trope may need an overhaul.

Lots42 Since: Mar, 2013
Mar 28th 2011 at 4:59:43 AM •••

The promotional material for the HAVOC vehicle from G.I.Joe shows a red-and-white uniformed man firing guns. This is Lifeline, an avowed pacifist who at the time would never have fired any guns.

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AndrewGPaul Since: Oct, 2009
Mar 8th 2011 at 6:22:42 AM •••

The Tekken and King of Fighters examples under Film are awfully long, are they not? They're two or three times as long as any other Film example, even without the natter.

DOmen Since: Jul, 2010
Oct 7th 2010 at 3:00:01 PM •••

Pulled this out.

  • Nintendo is usually known for their good localization work(the Mario And Luigi RPGs wouldn't be as awesome without the great localization they gave the series), but their localization of Metroid Other M is truly inexcusable. Awful voice acting abound, incomprehensible dialogue, and a horribly miscast Samus. But they also commit the biggest cardinal sin of any bad localization: leaving out the (vastly superior) Japanese voice track. Even Sin And Punishment Star Successor had the original voice track!

I could say Fan Dumb, but let's just consider it a heavy case of Your Mileage May Vary. Way too heavy to be on the page (passed as fact, even).

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MrDeath Since: Aug, 2009
Oct 7th 2010 at 3:14:19 PM •••

Yeah, that's just bitching and moaning. It seems like there's no shortage of it in regards to Other M.

Korval Since: Jan, 2001
Aug 25th 2010 at 3:50:57 PM •••

This:

  • The brutal oversimplification of the tabletop strategy game Battle Tech done by Microsoft for the Mechassault series (not to be confused with the Mech Warrior series which for the most part is pretty faithful). This included such things as force fields, a gun that shoots lava, magical glowing green piles of salvage that instantly repair damage, infinite ammo, and contact with the ground causing all mechs to explode violently
    • Mech Warrior 4 also added variable-damage weaponry in the form of the Bombast laser, and claimed that the vacuum of space provided improved cooling over air.
      • Small Battle Tech note. A variable-damage weapon was later added to BT, but it was not the Bombast laser.
        • As of the recent core book, Tactical Operations, there are two kinds weapons that can vary damage: Bombast Lasers and any PPC with a capacitor. Not counting Ultra and Rotary Autocannons, and range-variable weapons like Heavy Gauss Rifles and Snub-nosed PPCs.
          • Mechwarrior 4 takes plenty of liberties all the same. Clantech is far too abundant, especially in the Mercenaries sequel which has even backwater rebel militias armed with cutting edge Clan Omnimechs!

You could call it adaptation decay, but I see no evidence that the makers of Mech Assault didn't care about what they were making.

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