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Oct 5th 2013 at 3:49:48 PM •••

My entry here:

  • It should be noted that disbelief in the supernatural generally doesn't protect against it in King's works.

Not natter. There are other works where disbelief in the supernatural provides protection against it. In Stephen King's, that does not apply. In works like The Dark Tower and It, the reverse is true. So it should be noted. If you think it is worded clumsily or something, then change it.

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Sep 15th 2013 at 11:19:43 PM •••

  • There is a short story in which a demon has the job of dragging humans to Hell, and can only be defeated by holy words. The specific religion doesn't matter so much as the strength of the person's belief. His first intended victim is a Christian who prays and forces him to let go. The second is an atheist, and her holy words are the laws of physics. Hilarity Ensues.
    • Anyone here know what the story is?

Moving this here to maintain the question while avoiding conversation on the main page.

The "Midnight Game" can be found on the creepypasta wikia. I won't link to it because I'm not sure how SFW the site is. The page with the actual description looks pretty okay.

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Feb 25th 2012 at 3:40:54 PM •••

What's this "Midnight Game" malarkey in the "Real Life" section? As far as I can tell, it should be in "Other", if on this page at all.

Feb 5th 2012 at 8:04:51 AM •••

Would Jim Carrey's Yes Man count, maybe to a lesser degree. While it may not be a literal example, the seminar certainly preaches such. Maybe a subversion?

May 11th 2011 at 10:54:01 AM •••

Part about quantum mechanics in real life. I don't want to go editting other people's postings as I'm not familiar with the system or rules on that sort've thing. But the double slit experiment isn't a case of this trope.

In order to "observe" anything something has to be either emitted or absorbed in order to get a readding. In the case of an electron you are essentially "poking" it, causing it's waveform to collapse which fundamentally changes the outcome of the experiment, to conclude the universe in any way changes to suddenly exists simply because it is observed is more a form of solipsitic thinking

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May 11th 2011 at 1:02:22 PM •••

You ARE allowed to edit other people's text - This Is A Wiki after all.

Dec 20th 2010 at 10:24:25 AM •••

From the article:

  • In one vampire movie (anyone who knows the title, feel free to add it), a yuppie was able to repel a vampire using his wallet, thanks to his faith in the almighty dollar.

I tried to track this down, and I can't much of anything on it. It appears to be largely anecdotal.

The annotations on Terry Pratchett's Carpe Jugulum (page 91) mentions such a movie, and the proximity of the above example to the Carpe Jugulum example suggests that they were both added at once. For posterity: "This has produced some interesting interpretations of what a 'holy symbol' could be — one film shows a yuppie repelling a vampire with his wallet."

From JustBugsMe/AnitaBlake: ... There is mention in the books of a yuppie warding off a vampire... with his wallet (because he worships/has faith in/whatever the power of the almighty dollar).

I couldn't find any other mention of this on the internet, but if it's as small of a tidbit in the books as is suggested here, I'm not surprised that that text isn't on the internet.

This post mentions a similar tale, but it is referenced as a short story here. The poster, Marlitharn, elaborates further in this post.  Post One

 Post Two

The short story version is vaguely mentioned here.

From [1]: - Repelled/harmed by religious symbols. This appears to be a subject of great debate. A very prevalent belief, is the symbol itself is useless unless the wielder possesses a strong faith in the efficacy of the symbol, as a despoiler of evil. As such, the symbol is just the vehicle for the faith of its holder, and the actual symbol need not be religious. There is a movie in which a yuppie dispels a vampire by holding up his wallet! Apparently, his faith in money was enough that he could harm the vampire. Again, it was the faith and not the symbol that mattered.

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Sep 16th 2010 at 10:39:07 AM •••

From the article:

One question that never seems to be asked: Why does the universe work that way if most people believe that it doesn't? (In fairness, Jesus wasn't advocating the power of belief as such, but describing a response that God would have to one's belief.  *


[end quote; emphasis original, but now removed from the article by yours truly]

What's with all the Christian theology all of a sudden? Why is it here? Isn't this an article about a fiction trope?

I'm guessing the Jesus quote atop the page primed one or two Christian tropers to feel their religion and the way they practice it was being criticised, and this seemed the right place for a rebuttal. If that's the case, I'd suggest taking both the rebuttal and the quote somewhere else (or just out) so that this can be a proper TV Tropes article with no digression as to how much or little sense Christianity's particular usage of the trope makes.

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Sep 16th 2010 at 1:45:29 PM •••

I'm having trouble figuring out the point of that paragraph in the first place. Why should it be a necessity that most people believe the universe works this way for it to work this way? Does electricity not work if most people don't believe it works? Yes, I know electricity is real, but that's besides the point. This trope is a form of Functional Magic. For all practical purposes it falls under Clarke's Third Law.

So, paragraph deleted. Jesus stays, since that quote is Older Than Feudalism and shows the permanence of the trope.

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