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Jul 27th 2011 at 4:17:03 PM •••

anyone have any decent fanfics for this series? Trying to find them in The Pit is an exercise in futility due to its crappy search function.

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Jul 28th 2011 at 11:13:17 AM •••

From the Warhammer40000 Fanfic recommendations page:

Both by the same author, and both pretty good reads from what I remember of them.

Also, Poker Night is a pretty fun read with a hilarious twist ending.

Edited by Specialist290
Jul 29th 2011 at 4:18:28 PM •••

ta muchly. If these are CC focused fics should they not be moved (or at least copied into) a fanfic recs page for this book series?

May 26th 2011 at 1:22:10 PM •••

Here's my idea of a character list.

imperium of man



amberly's crew

rest of imperial guard



everyone else (maybe to be split further)


other races

Seems legit?

Also, is it possible to make subfolders?

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May 29th 2011 at 3:32:30 AM •••

That's a "no" on the subfolders, unfortunately.

The overall structure looks good to me. I've tweaked a few of your entries for grammar and fleshed out some of the bios. I'm planning on rereading the series again over the summer, so I should be able to find some more tropes for some of the more noteworthy and regular characters.

May 30th 2011 at 4:00:30 AM •••

We can go as far as to write the thing from Vail's standpoint. The entire thing is filled with footnotes already.

Well, my grammar is really lousy because I am not a native and I do not proofread this, seeing as it's a draft.

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Mar 4th 2011 at 1:38:09 PM •••

Anyone think adding a character page might be a good idea?

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Apr 11th 2011 at 1:31:27 PM •••

Most certainly it would, there's just enough characters to make it interesting, any volunteers?

Willbyr MOD
May 25th 2011 at 1:13:33 PM •••

RE: last set of edits: Wow, that was rude...that's what edit reasons are for, especially when it comes to large moves and culls; if you'd said they were moved in the first place, this wouldn't have happened. Still, some of those need to stay on the main page since they apply to multiple characters; generally speaking, single character-specific tropes belong on character pages while tropes that cover multiple characters are better left on the main page for the sake of not repeating a trope. I'll work on this tonight if/when I get time.

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May 25th 2011 at 1:31:33 PM •••

Aaaaaaaaand my "This work now has a character page in desperate need of improvement" note in the article is where the frak, exactly?

Effing brilliant. I love it when my information just gets eaten.

Edited by Aminatep
May 25th 2011 at 4:40:21 PM •••

(EDIT: This is why I should read the whole discussion before posting.)

That said, good job on creating the new page. It's been needed for a while. I'll see if I can't add a blurb or two for a few of the other characters myself.

Edited by Specialist290
Jan 28th 2011 at 5:29:05 AM •••

I hate to nitpick but: Willbyr, is there a particular reason you're double-bulleting everything?

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Dec 2nd 2010 at 5:53:24 PM •••

IT should be noted the latest Imperial Guard novel 'Dead Men walking' has a continutity nod towards "Caves of ice" on page 84 I believe. With a commisioner there recalling Cains (Heavily redacted) after action report on the battle at S Imia orichlae.

Dec 1st 2010 at 7:01:23 PM •••

There has to be an explosion trope that covers the scale of the promethium detonation in Caves of Ice. Any ideas on what it might be?

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Nov 24th 2010 at 12:40:03 PM •••

There's a line been added under Forgone Conclusion that states Jurgen survives past Cain's death from old age. What is the source of this information, please?

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Nov 24th 2010 at 12:55:09 PM •••

That's not correct- Cain specifically mentions that Jurgen's "long gone" by the time he's writing his memoirs. Can't remember what book that's from, either. It was either Last Stand or Traitor's Hand, I think.

Jan 8th 2011 at 1:34:58 PM •••

Pulling from the old archived discussion:

  • In For the Emperor, introducing Jurgen, he says, "Even after all this time I still find myself missing him on occasion." If this is because Jurgen is dead, Cain may well have grief clouding his memory on top of all other possibilities.
    • This is peculiar, because Jurgen was still with him in Cain's Last Stand, which takes place after he'd already begun recording these unofficial memoirs. For the Emperor must thus have been recorded quite some time after the events of Cain's Last Stand.
    • I believe he began the memoirs after Cain's Last Stand. Vail refers to it as occuring five or six years before the memoirs. But considering the length of their association, it would be surprising if Cain considered a few years "all this time" so this may just be a Continuity Glitch, and not evidence of Jurgen's death. Just to keep things complex.
    • In Caves of Ice, Amberley comments that "this part of the archive appears to have been composed only a matter of months before the thirteenth Black Crusade" thus, before CLS.

Basically, it's a Continuity Snarl. I personally reconcile it by assuming that Cain was somehow separated from Jurgen for a long period of time without him being dead, although possibly he had been presumed dead.

Edited by Specialist290
Jan 8th 2011 at 2:09:52 PM •••

It's worth noting, though, that from Amberley's comments in...For the Emperor, IIRC (one of the earlier books anyway), it seems that Cain's memoirs aren't written down in anything even resembling chronological order. Our favourite Inquisitor is cherrypicking stories from the Archive, editing them into a readable format (footnotes ahoy!) and publishing them depending on what she feels like at the time. It's entirely possible that what would become For the Emperor may have been one of the last things Cain ever wrote in his long life.

Willbyr MOD
Jan 8th 2011 at 6:48:04 PM •••

That's exactly what's happening. It's very possible that at the time what would become For the Emperor was written by Cain, Jurgen was dead.

Jul 9th 2010 at 8:46:11 AM •••

Under Did You Just Punch Out Cthulhu, someone mentions that there's an Imperial Guard drinking song about him kicking Khorne in the balls. Er. Where can I find this. Sauce plz.

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