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NNinja Since: Sep, 2015
Jul 8th 2018 at 2:27:24 AM •••

  • In Man Of Steel, following the return of the other Kryptonians to the Phantom Zone (more likely them dying because of it), General Zod vows to take his revenge on Superman by killing the people of Earth. After threatening to kill a near-by family with his heat vision, Superman, who has him in a head-lock, begs him to stop. As he vows never, Supes is forced to snap his neck. The scream of anguish as Superman realizes that he has killed someone is just horrifying. Ironically, among the critics of the scene is the guy who gave us the Trope Namer.

I don't think it's an example. True, Kal killed Zod, but as that was his first day supermanning, and at this point it was in no way established that he has a no-kill rule, so there wasn't any rule to be broken.

SirHandel3 Since: Sep, 2015
Jan 2nd 2018 at 2:03:12 PM •••

So does this trope have to be a no-killing rule, or no-guns rule? Because from what I read, it makes it sound like it either has to be a no-killing/guns rule or that the Hero just has an out-of-character moment where they break their golden rule by choice. Can someone please enlighten me?

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NNinja Since: Sep, 2015
Jul 8th 2018 at 2:23:03 AM •••

No, it just needs to be any rule that defines the character. What IS the rule is irrelevant it can be anything, no guns, no killing, no kicking in the balls, not using a certain technique or spell, anything.

DaibhidC Wizzard Since: Jan, 2001
Wizzard
Nov 15th 2014 at 10:49:09 AM •••

Is there really any evidence that the Fourth Doctor "does like guns"? There's certainly more than one scene where he says he doesn't; In "Pyramids of Mars" he says he never carries firearms, and when he's packing a pistol in "Seeds of Doom", he and Sarah agree that he'd "never use it".

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microtodd Since: Dec, 2011
Feb 26th 2014 at 1:13:43 PM •••

The Robocop entry:

In Robo Cop, near the end, after the industrial site chase scene, Robo Cop and Boddiker are in a pool of muck. Boddiker starts taunting Robo, to which Robo unsheaths his data jack (which is conveniently wrist-mounted and very long and sharp), emotionlessly stares at Boddiker, and states "I'm not arresting you anymore." Stabbing ensues. Somehow, Robo Cop manages to override his core directives pertaining to law enforcement that is ingrained in his cybernetic programming (or perhaps liberally interprets them) in order to permanently end Boddicker, who was defenseless laying in the muck.

That's not what happened in the 1987 film. Boddicker was not lying defenseless, and when Murphy/Robocop states his pre-ass-kicking-one-liner he's still holding his gun. See here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKfRt4xn6cI)

Bwbah Since: Apr, 2011
Nov 30th 2013 at 9:48:01 PM •••

Pulled:

  • Some fans argue that, in the My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic episode "Too Many Pinkie Pies", Twilight Sparkle essentially killed dozens of arguably sentient and sapient Pinkie clones. Supposedly she's only sending them back to the Mirror Pool they came from, and they weren't alive to begin with, but she nonetheless comes across as rather... trigger-happy.

because it's not a trope example. Twilight jumps to a conclusion about what's going on around her and impulsively acts on it? Oh no! That's totally out of character for her!

Maybe she did kill a bunch of innocent, new born ponies, but that's not something she ever considered; all she saw were magical constructs and neither her lack of consideration that they might have been more nor her actions afterwards to deal with the problems they created are out of character, much less a compromise of one of her defining character traits (that last being what it takes to make this trope.)

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