I take it the repair didnt go through?
How is this not a YMMV thing?
This is obviously YMMV. Reading the entries are frequently criney, reaching and boderline fan fiction aanlysis. Some even ignoring word of god.
The entire page could use a serious reworking and a good portion of entries should probably be outright removed.
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I asked the mods to help shift the trope from its original definition of "character is vaguely Camp Gay" to "shows ambiguous interest in the same gender", which successfully went through. It is not meant to be YMMV, that is what Ho Yay is for. This trope is strictly for objective examples of characters exhibiting certain traits and actions in-show, independent of fan theories.
If you don't like these examples the burden is on you to provide hard evidence of why these examples don't count. I'm active on the Ho Yay cleanup thread so I'm already familiar with working to clean up examples that are overly gushy or spurious and full of shipping goggles. If you believe some of these examples are misuse or belong more on Ho Yay than Ambiguously Gay, that's fair. But calling them cringy, reaching, and fanfiction doesn't give me hope that you're arguing in good faith.
Edited by AlleyOop
I think the image needs to be changed to reflect the trope more accurately, because having interests stereotypically associated with the opposite sex does not automatically make a character gay, as Camp Straight proves to us.
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You know, I honestly liked the old picture better, even if it was a furry. The new pic isn't so much ambiguous as just plain Straight Gay.
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Also, the person who insists on it is refusing to address the points made by the person who reverted it the first time. I'm going to call "put up or shut up" and fix it.
My posts make considerably more sense read in the voice of John Ratzenberger.
I think this is a different picture than the one being discussed above. Either way, I've reverted to the old image- the furry dude is ambiguous. Bishōnen dude wearing a purple shirt is Just A Face And A Caption.
Edited by SomeGuy See you in the discussion pages.
Can we please change the image so it's not something from some obscure webcomic?
I don't see why it being from an obscure webcomic is a problem, it illustrates the trope better than the Just A Face And A Caption one.
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It is amusing, and accurately relates to the trope. Why feel the need to replace it with another when There Is No Such Thing As Notability
I always saw the image as a guy with long hair, and having nail polish is caring about your hygiene, nothing else. Also, wasn't the right earring, the "gay earring"?
I'm coming to this discussion late, but in addition to it being from an obscure furry webcomic, it's also not that great of a visual example; it's extremely text-heavy and relates to a character being this trope In-Universe, whereas the trope is generally used more for Doylist examples of a work being unclear on a character's sexual orientation.
At the same time, I'm sort of unsure if there's a better option. I think maybe just having this page be image-free might be the best way to go?
Because the previous Trope Repair Shop discussion
and next discussion decided against.
Previous Trope Repair Shop thread: Misused
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