This applies to gender roles in media, and not fantasy creatures that are always female, right?
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No, it applies to tropes which are always female, or usually female. That includes fantasy creatures.
Why is this showing up twice at the bottom of the indexed pages?
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Fixed it by removing the indexing and then readding it.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Just wondering why these two are here:
I know that The Chick can be female, and that this member of the Five-Man Band is often characterized by being the most feminine, with somewhat feminine traits (ie: Closer to Earth, The Heart, Team Mom, Distressed Damsel...). Still, it is possible for this role to be filled by a boy, like as a Non-Action Guy or even a Cute Shotaro Boy Fragile Speedster. As for The Dark Chick, this is supposed to be the "quirky" member of a Five Bad Band. According to the main page, the male-to-female-ratio is more evenly split 50/50, so it's far from being confined to this index. The Dark Chick need not be "girlish" per se, but they usually stand out as being considerably 'different' from the rest of the team; whether they're a Perky Female Minion or relatively funny in the head (and not in that sort of way), or maybe a borderline Token Good Teammate.
I just don't see how these two should be on this index, that's all.
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Some more tropes that I think should be removed from the index, divided into somewhat organized categories:
- Male examples of tropes found on main index:
- Brainy Brunette
- Dumb Blonde
- Hair of Gold
- Little Miss Badass and Little Miss Snarker (not sure of the male-to-female ratio, but male examples exist)
- Perky Goth (Tim Burton, anyone?)
- Sarashi (main page states it can be worn by both genders)
- She Cleans Up Nicely
- Examples where it is Always Female, but somebody just put it in twice:
Also, I noticed that compared with the Always Male page, this index looks much more organized, including related indexes and even Sister Tropes. I think the Always Male page could use some maintainance.
I fixed the duplicate Neutral Female entry.
Oh, and I think Scary Librarian and Morality Chain should be removed too. The trope descriptions are unisex save for the pronouns used or the injection of stereotypes, and there's a fair number of male examples in both pages.
Edited by mrpresto
Now that Fast Eddie made The Chick always a girl I put it back.
I'm not LGBT. I just think Rain's really cool. Apologies if my humor gets too painful.
I think it might be a good idea to divide the page into three categories: tropes that are usually female (e.g. Mad Scientist's Beautiful Daughter), tropes that biologically must be female (e.g. Boobs Of Steel), and tropes where being female is part of the trope (e.g. Action Girl). Likewise with Always Male.
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That's a good idea. Dumb Blonde for instance is usually female but occasionally male.
Linking to a past Trope Repair Shop thread that dealt with this page: Not Always
, started by EternalSeptember on Apr 20th 2011 at 11:23:06 PM
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman