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Jun 5th 2017 at 7:15:44 AM •••

Is this really a "Just for Fun" kind of page?

Jul 5th 2012 at 10:25:55 AM •••

The following were added without discussion:

Should they be on the page?

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Sep 7th 2012 at 11:43:03 AM •••

Everything minus Even Evil Has Standards should be nuked.

Well, I'd give Harmless Villain (by itself) a little leeway, but still.

Jun 29th 2012 at 12:59:20 PM •••

I removed Did Not Do The Research and Better Than It Sounds from the page. Neither is a trope, and as far as I know this page is supposed to be for actual ones only.

May 2nd 2012 at 11:09:03 AM •••

What about [Bishoujo]? I mean [Bishonen]'s there so [Bishoujo] should be too =)

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May 2nd 2012 at 11:31:44 AM •••

Bishoujo is a fanspeak definition, not a trope, so no, it shouldn't be on there.

Mar 26th 2012 at 9:08:30 PM •••

I recommend Complete Monster. There are over 10000 articles.

EDIT: Nevermind, I didn't notice there were two lists.

Edited by ChaoticQueen
Mar 13th 2012 at 3:16:26 PM •••

For anyone who's interested, I've proposed a new method for deciding which tropes get included on Tropes Of Legend in this thread.

Mar 13th 2012 at 2:40:05 PM •••

Someone added the following three tropes without discussion. I've pulled them here because I don't think they belong. What do others think?

  • Guile Hero: A heroic character who is similar to a Magnificent Bastard, but mainly operates by manipulating the bad guys and has shorter-term planning, all that for heroic reasons and goals.
  • Incorruptible Pure Pureness: The exact opposite of a Complete Monster. A character of pure goodness who is completely and utterly incorruptible, even by the most evil and powerful corrupting influence.
  • Smug Super: Similarly, a character who is just as arrogant as a Smug Snake, but lords on about his / her immense power instead of being sneaky and manipulative.

Edited by Nocturna
Mar 13th 2012 at 2:38:12 PM •••

I think it would be worth including.

Jan 27th 2012 at 8:39:49 PM •••

So the list and page are supposed to be a list of tropes, right? But things like The Oldest Ones in the Book (an index, not a trope) and YMMV (which has a banner warning editors never to list it as a trope) are also on this list. Huh?

These are widely used Things of Legend, so maybe they should be on a sublist within this page, a list of non-trope pages of legend.

Edited by ArcadesSabboth
Dec 21st 2011 at 11:03:27 AM •••

Cerebus Syndrome. It's gained popularity outside TV Tropes, and know it's the stock phrase to refear to this.

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Dec 21st 2011 at 5:45:09 PM •••

This isn't about popularity outside the site.

Oct 9th 2011 at 2:46:20 PM •••

I nominate Angrish. It's used quite a lot.

Edited by galaxyman7
Sep 4th 2011 at 12:35:42 AM •••

And I realized that we don't have Heartwarming Moments. Consensus to add under Sugar Wiki?

Aug 31st 2011 at 6:10:17 AM •••

Some people recently added some tropes, as I guess without asking anyone. Here's the list, including the current number of wicks:

The two Ending Tropes might be justified (and Bittersweet Ending will be one of the Overdosed Tropes soon, so that's OK anyway), but the two "This..." tropes really aren't common enough, so I cut them. The other tropes are arguable... I'll let them here for a while, let's wait what others say.

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Sep 3rd 2011 at 10:41:24 PM •••

I'd be fine with the ending tropes, mostly because they're common in real life, too. Of the others, the only one I recall seeing with any frequency is Villainous Breakdown, so I'd say the rest are too obscure to have on this list. (And I'm using the metric of "have I seen it or not" because I instantly recognize all but 2 or 3 of the tropes on the main page.)

Dec 21st 2011 at 5:46:39 PM •••

If we use the 2500 wick stick, then none of them qualify.

Aug 22nd 2011 at 8:46:45 PM •••

this page should be indexed, right?

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Aug 15th 2011 at 6:00:47 PM •••

Nominating Let's Get Dangerous!. Let's Get Dangerous found in: 1081 articles, excluding discussions.

This title has brought 1,963 people to the wiki from non-search engine links since 20th FEB '09.

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Aug 17th 2011 at 4:07:16 AM •••

See above: 2500 wicks gives us enough of Tropes Of Legend. If we allowed all with more than 1000 wicks, this page would triple in size.

Edited by Frank75
Jun 19th 2011 at 6:20:42 AM •••

"So Bad, It's Horrible found in 64 articles, excluding discussions."


Edited by ading
May 10th 2011 at 6:12:14 PM •••

Should Ted Baxter go here? According to the wick page, Tropes Of Legend go into 300-1000 range, and Ted Baxter is nearing 1000 wicks so should it go here? Also Those Two Guys which has I believe 1222 wicks.

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May 12th 2011 at 6:27:59 AM •••

I think that page is a bit outdated. See Overdosed Tropes: These are those with 2500 wicks and more, and that's already a big list. See above.

Jul 13th 2011 at 4:31:52 AM •••

Took the freedom to up the ranges (for wicks) somewhat to reflect that the wiki has grown.

Edited by Frank75
Apr 14th 2011 at 5:21:14 AM •••

I think we should make a decision when a trope is a trope of legend and when it isn't. A work is Trope Overdosed if it has at least 1000 wicks, but when is a trope a trope of legend?

2000 wicks doesn't sounds unreasonable for me. Just in comparison: We have about 20000 trope pages now, about the same number of work pages, and more than 40000 sub pages.

I also do think that every trope page that has a number of sub pages should automatically count too.

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Apr 29th 2011 at 1:15:55 AM •••

Added a number of tropes. 2000 actually may be a bit low, but 3000 should be OK, I'd say. (However, The Libby wouldn't make it then, but is this so bad?)

Edited by Frank75
Jul 1st 2011 at 5:04:56 PM •••

You added a bunch of tropes to the list without giving descriptions. I wasn't sure which ones belonged on there, so I removed them.

Jul 13th 2011 at 5:24:56 AM •••

I had hoped someone else would add the descriptions. All of these tropes have 2500+ wicks (Mad Scientist even over 5k), IMO they should qualify. See also other threads.

Mar 18th 2011 at 2:41:55 PM •••

I, Tracer, am shocked — shocked, do you hear! — that none of the "Shipping" related tropes appear among the tropes of legend. What with everybody speculating about who's doing it with whom, for just about every show ever made.

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Jan 28th 2012 at 8:26:04 PM •••

Shipping itself has 1410 wicks. I added together the number of collective wicks of every page with "Ship" or "Shipping" in its title, the total was 9489. Most notable was Shipper on Deck (1371 wicks) and Ship Tease (2304 wicks)

Mar 13th 2011 at 4:36:34 PM •••

Adaptation Decay was listed on its own page as one of the Tropes Of Legend. Wha'happen?

Dec 8th 2010 at 2:26:31 PM •••

I think Alternate Character Interpretation showed be placed on this. Every Character from She Hulk to Luke Skywalker can be interpreted another way.

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Oct 14th 2010 at 3:41:18 AM •••

Though it has few wicks, being the consolidated, absolutely set-in-stone source for Canon, I'm nominating Universe Bible.

Jan 28th 2012 at 7:50:37 PM •••

Only in 139 articles.

Edited by dalexterminate
Sep 10th 2010 at 2:57:55 PM •••

Wouldn't Big Damn Heroes be appropriate to have on here? From the Related To page

Big Damn Heroes found in: 2009 articles, excluding discussions.

This title has brought 4,534 people to the wiki from non-search engine links since 20th FEB '09.

EDIT: It's on now.

Edited by TheInferno
Aug 15th 2010 at 12:07:41 PM •••

I nominate Wish Ful Fillment that trope is the mother of all fiction and of some of the most popular tropes like Mary Sue

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Jul 24th 2010 at 6:03:31 AM •••

I would like to nominate "Funny Aneurysm" Moment. 800 wicks, 5266 externals and a multi-page trope.

Jun 26th 2010 at 8:48:49 PM •••

I just noticed that Love Triangle, which is one of the Oldest Ones in the Book is not on this page. I believe that this error requires correction.

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Aug 26th 2011 at 5:13:56 PM •••

"Found in: 1760 articles, excluding discussions."

Well, I'd say that counts as oft-referenced.

EDIT: Woah, just found out that wasn't enough. I'm something of a n00b, so I misjudged.

Edited by Webby
Apr 15th 2010 at 1:42:09 AM •••

I nominate Character Alignment, they are a prominant feature in Character Sheets and spawned the Lawful Stupid, Chaotic Stupid section and Selfish Good Selfish Evil trope. And it is the Morality Tropes of all Morality Tropes plus the way to judge a character's morals and ethics.

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Jan 28th 2012 at 7:41:27 PM •••

I totally back that up, the massive amount of subpages makes it a shoe-in.

Edit: I did some research, Character Alignment and its nine subpages are in 5324 pages, with Chaotic Evil alone being in 727 pages. Is that enough or does it have to be the appearances of Character Alignment itself? *

Edited by dalexterminate
Mar 8th 2010 at 2:00:27 PM •••

Nominating "Ugly Guy, Hot Wife" for this page. I think it's pervasive enough through all of fiction to allow- and it's given birth to at least one other trope.

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