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Ambaryerno Since: Aug, 2011
Nov 22nd 2016 at 5:59:42 PM •••

Captain Needa's execution for "incompetence" is NOT Fridge Brilliance. There's nothing within the film that substantiates it, and in fact requires complete disregard of the film's actual sequence of events:

  • The Falcon makes her close pass at Avenger's command tower.
  • Needa orders his crew to track them because they may come around for another pass.
  • Sensors crew announces the Falcon has disappeared from their sensors.
  • Needa expresses his disbelief, at which point another sensors officer reiterates there's no trace of the Falcon.
  • Communications officer reports Vader is demanding an update on the pursuit.
  • Needa has an Oh, Crap! moment, orders his crew to continue searching the area, and departs to report to Vader in person.

The timing doesn't provide an opportunity for incompetence on Needa's part. In fact if anything, Needa demonstrated a substantial amount of competence throughout the sequence, by refusing to accept that the Falcon could have simply vanished and ordering his crew continue the search in his absence. He at no point just "gives up" or fails to think outside the box. His hand is forced by Vader demanding an immediate update before he can even consider the options, and you don't put the Dark Lord on hold.

If this belongs anywhere, it's a headscratcher or WMG.

Edited by Ambaryerno
Whitewings Since: Jan, 2001
Jan 15th 2013 at 8:06:34 PM •••

This page needs attention from an expert; the folders aren't working properly, and my examination shows nothing amiss in the markup.

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Telcontar MOD Since: Feb, 2012
Jan 16th 2013 at 1:25:15 AM •••

No expert attention is needed; the issue is that folders can only contain a certain amount of text, but these have got so large they're breaking that. If the page is divided into more, smaller folders, it'll fix itself.

That was the amazing part. Things just keep going.
NekoLLX Writer: Tokusatsu 5YrWar Since: Nov, 2010
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May 3rd 2011 at 8:54:29 AM •••

To Mr. Death There was really no need to remove this

  • Fridge Horror here: But given the size of the cloning facility one has to wonder what they did with all the clones in training/raising once they got enough native recruits. It's hard to believe they all died in the line of duty before the recruitment engine was in full bloom. So is half the army clones, meaning your wingman could be one of a thousand people with the same face? Or were they....disposed...of...now that You Have Outlived Yourusefulness. — Neko LLX

As you said "The clones are explicitly kept to make the first batch of Stormtroopers. Then they just stop ordering clones."

But my point is quite valid, there were still 10 thousand clones ordered, and they can't have ALL been killed before they filled the ranks so were they "removed" or did the native recruits have a thousand clone bunk mates?

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MrDeath Since: Aug, 2009
May 3rd 2011 at 9:01:15 AM •••

I still don't see what the "horror" is. This would be after the galaxy has gotten used to the idea of clones—it's not like they're all of a sudden being brought in. And 10,000 isn't exactly a huge number on the galactic scale.

NekoLLX Since: Nov, 2010
May 3rd 2011 at 9:10:35 AM •••

The Horror is seeing the same face in your baracks but isn't the same person, say you confide in your wing man only to find out later you confinded in his twin.

Assuming that they didn't just kill them all once they had enough natives which is horror in it's own right.

So 2 types of horror

7 friends, a robot, and a spirit, will find a way to protect us...if it kills them.
MrDeath Since: Aug, 2009
May 3rd 2011 at 9:17:02 AM •••

As I said: The whole galaxy has already seen and interacted with the clones for the last several years during the war. They're used to it, it's not this horrible, alien thing they now have to be forced into.

As for the second, that is explicitly not the case. They use the clones until they're killed off, retire, or are unfit because of clone degeneration.

Peteman Since: Jan, 2001
Feb 5th 2011 at 9:27:06 PM •••

When did George Lucas say that Anakin was created by Darth Plagueis?

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