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AMassiveOvereditor Since: Jan, 2018
Apr 5th 2022 at 7:54:43 PM •••

Is Electro knowing Spider man is peter parker a plot hole? He was never given this information in his movie, and he only comments on peter's appearance when he's cured, so by all means, shouldn't he not have been pulled in?

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Ymirsdaughter Since: Jul, 2014
Apr 5th 2022 at 8:07:18 PM •••

Didn't he find out in his dying moments?

AMassiveOvereditor Since: Jan, 2018
Apr 5th 2022 at 11:03:53 PM •••

If he did, it's never said or indicated, so I think it's safe to say he didn't.

Arawn999 Since: Dec, 2013
Apr 5th 2022 at 11:57:19 PM •••

It's been a while since I watched the movie, but doesn't Gwen call out "Peter!" just as Electro regains consciousness?

AMassiveOvereditor Since: Jan, 2018
Apr 6th 2022 at 1:10:13 PM •••

If just knowing people named "Peter" was the requirement for being pulled in, i am sure a lot more people would have been much bigger, it required knowing his identity specifically. I've heard he could have figured it out from the grid, but that seems like a Handwave at best.

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KingClark Since: Nov, 2009
Sep 15th 2021 at 7:47:59 AM •••

Willem Dafoe's involvement with the film has been confirmed through the trades post-teaser in the same way that Jamie Foxx's and Alfred Molina's were pre-teaser. While I agree with leaving Thomas Hayden Church and Rhys Ifans out of the description until then, I think that Dafoe should still be listed.

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jereyaj Since: Dec, 2016
Dec 15th 2021 at 12:57:46 PM •••

Also, there's a certain big spoiler that the film's promotion has tried hard to hide, but the page repeatedly treats it like it's not even a spoiler. Yet a much less important cameo is spoilered. Does that seem odd to anyone else? I think both should be spoilered.

freeter Since: Jun, 2013
Dec 17th 2021 at 10:21:42 PM •••

We should probably come up with a consistent way to differentiate between Holland, Maguire, and Garfield's Peters/Spider-Men. I'm seeing several different naming conventions across the various pages for the movie and it's all rather confusing.

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StFan Since: Jan, 2001
Dec 18th 2021 at 2:59:48 AM •••

Yeah, that's a mess. Some subpages, notably, have rampant use of Characterization Tags which aren't authorized.

The movie does use "Peter 1", "Peter 2" and "Peter 3", though I fear that's not clear at all.

jereyaj Since: Dec, 2016
Dec 19th 2021 at 12:55:46 AM •••

It's not, IMO.

Call 'em MCU Peter/Spider-Man, Raimi Peter/Spider-Man, and, of course, Amazing Peter/Spider-Man.

Vandagyre (Fifth Year at Tropey's)
Dec 20th 2021 at 10:05:56 PM •••

I support referring to them by film franchise or even by actor. Using the numbers is going to confuse people who haven't seen it because the numbering doesn't match the order their movies came out - for example, MCU Peter is Peter 1, not Raimi Peter.

Edited by Vandagyre I don't actually have any Bumblebee icons, I just think the nickname is funny.
harryhenry Since: Jan, 2012
Dec 20th 2021 at 10:11:37 PM •••

I think Tom!Peter, Andrew!Peter, and Tobey!Peter might work for that.

Arawn999 Since: Dec, 2013
Dec 20th 2021 at 10:40:24 PM •••

@harryhenry Except Characterization Tags aren't allowed per TV Tropes' editing rules.

StFan Since: Jan, 2001
Dec 21st 2021 at 2:01:55 AM •••

Also, referring to characters by the actor's names IS strongly frowned upon too (just check How Not to Write an Example). All such mentions will need to be purged of the page sooner or later.

Arawn999 Since: Dec, 2013
Dec 21st 2021 at 3:02:47 PM •••

Would MCU Spider-Man, Raimiverse Spider-Man, and Webbverse Spider-Man work for names?

StFan Since: Jan, 2001
Dec 22nd 2021 at 5:00:10 AM •••

^I guess that's the best compromise, since each movie series lack a definite, agreed-upon title.

I would favor writing it "Raimi-verse" and "Webb-verse", but that's a personal thing.

Asherinka Since: Jan, 2018
Dec 22nd 2021 at 11:29:10 AM •••

^^ I like those, but do we really need to write "MCU Spider-Man" given that this is an MCU film? I'd go with Spider-Man, Raimi-verse Spider-Man and Webb-verse Spider-Man.

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StFan Since: Jan, 2001
Dec 22nd 2021 at 1:53:03 PM •••

We use "MCU Spider-Man" whenever there is a need to disambiguate the three in an example for clarity. Most examples pertaining to the first two-third of the movie can just use "Spider-Man" or "Peter Parker", with the easy assumption it's the main protagonist we're talking about.

Green_lantern40 Since: Mar, 2010
Dec 22nd 2021 at 4:18:03 PM •••

Why can't we add a short little note briefly explaining the numbering system for reference?

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StFan Since: Jan, 2001
Dec 23rd 2021 at 2:12:31 AM •••

A little note wouldn't help casual readers who miss it (besides being a spoiler). A page must be written with the largest number of readers in mind.

harryhenry Since: Jan, 2012
Dec 23rd 2021 at 3:45:47 AM •••

Should we also spoiler tag the other Peters? It's left unspoiled even though it's been kept as a secret in the advertising (despite all the leaks).

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Tabs MOD Since: Jan, 2001
Jan 8th 2022 at 4:42:25 PM •••

There's a note now on the page, but yes, the existence of the other Peters should get spoiler tags.

Meistro2021 Since: Jul, 2021
Dec 30th 2021 at 6:04:21 PM •••

Hello! Is it okay for me to talk about The Multiversal Visitors including about the Sequel Hook?

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StFan Since: Jan, 2001
Jan 3rd 2022 at 6:47:20 AM •••

As this would concern an incoming movie, such mention would fit more in the page for Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness than here.

Eagal This is a title. Since: Apr, 2012
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Dec 29th 2021 at 10:02:59 PM •••

Regarding Meaningful Background Event. How is Norman filling his pockets with donuts a sign that Green Goblin is in control, exactly? I don't remember GG being a big donut fiend, nor was he much in the way of the Poke the Poodle.

Seems like anyone in Norman's situation, who's been trapped in a strange city for several days with nowhere to go nothing to eat and no evident way back home on the horizon would try to get his hands on as much food as possible.

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hunter139 Since: Jul, 2014
Dec 29th 2021 at 10:18:16 PM •••

Yeah, I'm really not seeing it either. Funny Background Event, definitely. But calling this a sign that the Goblin is in control is really stretching things, especially given how Peter's Spider-Sense reacted to the Goblin regaining control in Happy's apartment.

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