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Nov 7th 2018 at 9:32:34 AM •••

\"MMMM Richer: I personally didn\'t think this episode was THAT offensive, it didn\'t explicitly say that Autism doesn\'t exist, in fact, the cynics in that episode were the only people who claimed that autism and Asperger\'s don\'t exist, I think that Parker and Stone were trying to say that Autism is often severely misdiagnosed in children, and that Stan was actually depressed, I don\'t believe the show\'s ignorant enough to claim that autism isn\'t a real condition.\"

Whether it\'s true or not, this rebuttal to some of the people putting \"Ass Burgers\" as their DMOS feels like natter. I\'m going to remove it.

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Apr 27th 2017 at 6:57:00 PM •••

Are you allowed to add a "dethroning moment of suck" for an entire season? Because a couple of tropers added the entirety of Season 20 as a "dethroning moment of suck." Should this section be deleted?

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Apr 27th 2017 at 7:01:32 PM •••

Woody Alien3rd: It's hard to pick an episode from Season 20, so I'll say the season as a whole. South Park already remade episodes right before airing, and it worked, but here they tried to rework the entire storyline on the fly because they didn't think Trump could win the elections, and it showed. Parker's obsession with satirizing current events while they happen and the big number of plotlines (no less than three just in the first episode, with more appearing later) generated a poorly-written, bloated storyline that left a lot of hanging threads and was concluded with a blatant deus ex machina. Lots of characters appeared to do a whole lot of nothing (JJ Abrams, the Clintons, Bill Cosby, Caitlin Jenner, Elon Musk... heck even Kyle's mom seemed about to unleash her fury like in The Movie and then, surprise, did nothing), the Big Bad was just some random guy unrelated to anybody and the Member Berries, a clever and hilarious metaphor for the dangers of nostalgia, similarly just disappeared halfway through the season, their purpose or existence never explained. Some characters had a different personality (mellow Cartman, jerkass Butters, dickish troll Gerald) just for the sake of adding even more plotlines, like the war between boys and girls at SP Elementary, that never receiving a satisfying payoff. Not only this season showed that they aren't the master satirists many seem to see as, but also that their approach of always taking a middle ground is getting old: the major theme of the season, trolling, is treated very ambiguously and it's never clear what their stance is, if any. And, once again, Dildo Shwaggins and the other trolls get sidelined after a while, literally stuck in a cell doing nothing. Finally, acknowledging the season's problems with the usual Kyle patronising speech and literally naming one episode "Not Funny" is not clever, just infuriating.

Scsigs: I agree Season 20, on the whole, is the worst season of the show for several reasons. They're all caused by the fact that they made the season serialized. Now, serialization can be good for some shows. A ton of anime shows do this, Tokusatsu shows sometimes do this, & even Western shows, like Doctor Who, Avatar: The Last Airbender, etc have done this, or do that for their entire runs. They did a bit of serialization in the two seasons prior and did similar things many seasons prior. The problem with doing this, however, is that South Park is a show where the production style allows the creators to, literally, write, record, animate, & put together the episodes within the week that they air. They've honed this really well over the years & only missed a deadline once in the show's existence after they started doing it in Season 4. Pretty impressive, plus most of the episodes come out pretty well considering the quick production time, but the rushedness & spontaneity of that has allowed for all of the show's greatest moments since Season 4 when they started it. However, this only works best either when the episodes are standalone, aren't directly parodying such large events, have subtle references to each other, or have an idea that works no matter what. It was clear that they were expecting Hilary to win the election from the off. Everyone was...well, except the most hardened of Trump's supporters. There's a myriad of reasons why that I won't go into here, but suffice it to say that they clearly didn't expect him to win at all. They even went with the theory that Trump was trying to make himself lose because of some of the batshit stuff that was going on around him at the time; a theory that one of my college professors talked about months prior to the election. Thus, when they aired the episodes after the election, things just didn't get proper closure; the Member Berries, the "Girls VS Boys" Feminism lampooning stuff, etc. This is definitely the biggest learning experience Stone & Parker will have to reflect upon in the future if they ever wanna attempt this kind of thing again. Now, other than the outcomes, let me briefly talk about the setups. The series attempted to juggle many different hot-button issues at once slowly over the season. The "Girls VS Boys" stuff was meant to parody third wave Social Justice Feminism that's been rampant in social media for the last several years at this point. They also wanted to point out that women can be funny, it's just that the ways many of them go about it, people like Amy Schumer in particular, aren't the best ways because many of their "jokes" revolve around a few topics & aren't told well most of the time. That's immediately dropped because the lesson they wanted to convey was now moot & wouldn't make much sense in the new context. They wanted to say, while having nostalgia for something is fine, you shouldn't let companies keep marketing based on nostalgia, movie companies mostly, and we should be trying to move forwards rather than backwards. They're dropped entirely for the same reason as the other stuff. What's funny though, is that they've portrayed that kind of thing before, and better, so it's nothing entirely new for them. Then Trump. As Garrison stood in for him in the South Park universe, they tried to have Hilary come off as slightly better. This was a great angle to take this. No one was going to come out of that election unscathed and Trump was dubbed "the joke that went too far" by many both during & after the election, so this made perfect sense. Obviously, they were expecting Hilary to win, but despite all logic, reasoning, & expectations, Trump won. This threw what I suspect was the planned ultimate message of the season into chaos because it no longer made sense, forcing a retool over halfway through. What I suspect was the ultimate plan for the season, given the setup for the payoff, was that Hilary getting elected was supposed to be a sign that the world was ready for a maturity to take place, that even though there will be reboots, sequels, & stupidity in the world, people will come together to not let it run their lives. Unfortunately, the whole thing got flushed down the tubes when Trump got elected, forcing them to make Garrison president instead. thus, a lot of subplots were dropped. The only thing that got a payoff was the Dutch hacking thing, which, by the way, would be a huge scandal in real life, but that's because the Russian hacking controversy, which is what it's referencing, is. Everyone of these things just kinda failed in what they were set out to do in one way or another. Oh and also a subplot with Gerald that doesn't make sense for him that, I think, is referencing the Twitter controversy around Milo Yiannopoulos. My ultimate problem lies in how some of these don't make any sense. As I put in the YMMV section of the show's page on this site, they tried to connect Trump getting elected with people who like their nostalgia and supported Star Wars Episode VII by going to see it and that they're terrible people just because they wanna enjoy something that continues the legacy of something from the past. Oh, and they're automatically Trump supporters! That drove me off a cliff when I put those together. I have my nostalgia for media I've consumed when I was younger & I enjoyed Episode VII, yet I'm no Trump supporter, believe me. Hey, Matt & Trey, if you wanna make a point about a particular political figure, don't put people who haven't done anything related to liking him in with his/her supporters please! How do you badly screw up something like that? You wanna say nothing's original anymore & you want Hollywood to start green lighting more new projects? Fine. You wanna say nostalgia's blinding people from enjoying what's new? Fine. You wanna say Trump's a bad candidate who's more likely than not going to bring more regressions than progressions? Fine, but don't lump people who have little to nothing in common just because it seems it'll help your message, together, at least not the entire time. That's why I say out of everything bad from this season, the first bunch of episodes that establish those 3 things are bad because of the message they send. I still like this show, and I can admit I hate "Stanley's Cup" more as a single episode, but it's these episodes put together that really made me hate this season. Even if Hilary got elected & they were able to carry out all of their subplots, I don't think I'd like those either in that reality. Sorry if this is a bit long, but it had to be to send my disgust through all the way.

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These are the examples that use the whole season as a "dethroning moment of suck." Can I delete them?

Edited by ScorpionTalent
Apr 27th 2017 at 7:04:06 PM •••

"Moments only, no "just everything he said," "The entire show," or "This entire season," entries." I guess the answer is "yes".

Dec 10th 2015 at 6:04:47 AM •••

I've noticed a lot of dislike towards "Good Times With Weapons" because of how Butters was treated. Wasn't that the point of the episode? Butters gets a shuriken to the eye and experiences what can only be described as a crime against humanity, but everyone ignores this because they saw Cartman's penis. The premise is about reserving your outrage for things that are actually harmful.

Jan 12th 2015 at 4:29:53 PM •••

Note: I know that there is already a post like this, but I'm just adding another one.

Kyle seems to South Park's answer to Rodney Dangerfield, he can't get any respect.

What I mean by the above statement, is that since season 4, it seems that Kyle has been given a very large amount of unfair treatment. I don't know why, but it seems that since season 4, Cartman (in addition to Parker and Stone) have been looking left and right for chances to take potshots at Kyle, or should I say, to make him the Designated Monkey, and Kyle being my favorite character only makes things worse.

The five following episodes include some of my most hated Kyle-bashing moments:

5. The Passion Of The Jew: Simply put, you know there's problems when Kyle actually agrees with Cartman's anti-Semitic views.

4. Crippled Summer: The scene where Cartman is on live TV with a "no interruption rule." And so what does he do? As you might have guessed, he uses it to throw offensive comments at Kyle, and Jews as a whole. And what's worse, is that Kyle is forced to sit through it.

3. Royal Pudding: After Ike drops out of Mr. Mackey's play about Tooth Decay (so that he can go rescue The Princess Of Canada), Kyle is drafted into taking his brother's role. Despite that he has a Freudian Excuse, there was absolutely no need for the usually calm and understanding Mr. Mackey to scream and curse at the Kindergarten Students and Kyle whenever they made a mistake. And even worse? Mr. Mackey's most abusive comments are directed at none other than, Kyle!

2. Mr. Garrison's Fancy New Vagina: The entire "Jews can't play basketball" subplot was insulting. In addition, it's another episode where Kyle actually agrees with Cartman's racism. And on top of all of that, there are professional basketball players that are Jewish.

1. Ginger Cow: Boy howdy, this one is the biggest one in my opinion. This is my most hated one, particularly since Cartman is a Karma Houdini while Kyle spends the whole episode as the Butt Monkey. Everything from the "eating farts" gag to the ending was nothing more than one long attempt to bash Kyle. As somebody on the main DMOS page stated (and what I agree with), I didn't even find the bit with Kyle insulting his mother to be funny, as I have really come to like Sheila Broflovski over the years, and seeing Kyle insult her like that, it's not funny at all. And ultimately, Kyle is left broken spirited at the end because he put up with Cartman's torture for nothing, and Cartman gets away with it! This episode was filled with plenty of Dude, Not Funny!

And on a side note, Both Parker and Stone have stated that Cartman is their favorite character, the one that they most identify with. So what does this mean? Does this mean that Parker and Stone are anti-Semitic, racist, and narcissistic people who commit Moral Event Horizon acts?

Considering how much abuse Kyle goes through, I'm surprised has hasn't crossed the Despair Event Horizon already. And it also kind of makes me want to give the poor kid a hug.

P.S. Sorry for the long rant, but I've said what I had to say.

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Dec 31st 2014 at 6:51:52 AM •••

  • bubblesishot46853: I did not like "Major Boobage." I've never gotten high in my life, but if getting high on cocaine, crack, cat pee, or dandelions makes me see a world where anything and everything was boobs, then no thanks. The effort to put a pair of breasts into anything and everything came off as very lazy and in poor taste, and although South Park is mostly a show meant to offend, this was the only episode I've ever seen to offend me. (Not even Chinpokomon or Ass Burgers got me riled up, despite me being a Pokémon fan and having Asperger's Syndrome.) The one saving grace of this episode was Cartman being nice and hiding all the cats in his attic, then being completely unaware of any connotation to the Holocaust. But with an episode filled to the brim with nothing but boobs anywhere and everywhere, I can easily say this was my least favorite episode of the series. Hopefully, an episode like this won't happen again in the near future.]

I removed this, as it is a whole episode, and only specific moments are allowed.

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Jan 10th 2015 at 7:34:22 PM •••

Congratulations! You cut entries for an opinion page that weren't really offenders while spamming the forum. Seriously, if you're going to make giant snips, at least make a goddamn compilation instead.

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Dec 31st 2014 at 6:43:59 AM •••

  • So We Ate Them: As much as I like the series, "Stanley's Cup" never happened. I know what they were trying to do, but to me, the ending just comes off as unspeakably mean-spirited.
    • Dastardly Demolition: I have to agree with you here. I hated the ending. It's just so gruesome seeing small children being beaten around by huge adults. It's not funny due to Refuge in Audacity or Crossing the Line Twice, it's just cruel brutality. I laughed at some sick shit, but this made me turn my head away and change the channel.
    • Tropers/Psi001: While they might have gotten away with the gag concerning Steve Irwin's death in "Hell On Earth" (which was more a jab at the Too Soon party costumes scandal), the constant jabs from characters about "Steve Irwin and the stingrays" in this episode seemed gratuitously mean. Even worse since this seemed to be in retaliation to the family of Irwin complaining about the hurtfulness of the previous gag. There's a difference between "equal targets" humor and just spiting a mourning family for telling you what you can and can't write.

I removed the 2 responses as per the rule against Natter.

Dec 31st 2014 at 6:40:34 AM •••

  • Mnt T 88: "Mr. Garrison's Fancy New Vagina" is utterly horrible. Yes, its depiction of trans women clearly isn't meant to be taken seriously (this is South Park, after all), because no Transgender person in the real world would act like how Mr. Garrison does. But since a lot of the general public is very misinformed about transgender issues, many of the episode's more offensive points could easily have been taken at face value by many viewers. For a start, Garrison is misgendered by practically everyone else in the cast when presenting as a woman - almost no one uses the pronouns 'she' or 'her' at any point. Second, the conflict between Garrison and Mr. Slave only works if you buy into the "transitioning is all about 'the surgery'" myth - never mind that real trans people have to go through months of therapy before starting on hormones, which they have to do in conjunction with living as their gender for at least a year (usually longer), and then they can have 'the surgery'. Also the use of the "X trapped in a Y's body" soundbite, which is massively oversimplified and doesn't even apply to many transgender people, and the comparison's to believing yourself to be a different race or animal which, unlike transsexualism, doesn't have any scientific evidence to back it up. Plus Garrison outright admits at the end that he doesn't even identify as a woman - he simply prefers the idea of being seen as a heterosexual woman instead of a homosexual man. Countless trans women have been beaten and killed due to that line of thought, and this episode is doing nothing to dispel it. In fact, the only thing that this episode gets right about transsexualism is its rather vivid description of how a vaginoplasty works, but even then it's clearly being used for shock value and to disturb viewers. Long story short: Jesus Christ, why!?
    • TRAN Sawesome: For a show that spends so much time criticizing things for bludgeoning its audience with its message, the entire episode revolved around 'Transsexuals are stooooopid!!' Not one side joke, no humorous b-story, just an entire episode smacking you over the head with its message. Subtle......

I removed this because of the rule against calling an entire episode a D Mo S. As for the response, I removed it because of the rule against Natter.

Dec 31st 2014 at 6:36:20 AM •••

  • Koopa Kid 17: The resolution of the A-plot in "Quintuplets 2000" rubbed me the wrong way. From out of nowhere, the eponymous quints give huge reason you suck speeches to everyone involved. They see Stan, Kyle and Cartman as the worst offenders because of their ignorance on Romanian culture, their assumptions that America is so much better than everybody else and their wanting to perform circus acts. Okay, who in their right mind would expect an eight-year old American boy to know anything about Romania? It's not a country any kid their age would have reasonable understandings about.
    • Summer Days 128: I love how you act like that is some excuse, "Oh get off there backs they didn't know any better!" That's not the point. Kyle, Stand, and Eric wanted the quints to stay just to make a stupid circus! They didn't care about there welfare or what they wanted they cared about themselves. It was sick. I don't care if they're 8 and ignorant about the outside world they showed no concern for the girls or what they wanted. They deserved to be called out for what they did because they didn't care. I loved those girls and I'm glad they got ahappy ending.

I cut the response by Summer Days 128, as it is contesting the entry by Koopa Kid 17, and no contesting entries is allowed.

Dec 31st 2014 at 6:30:26 AM •••

  • ergeis: I'm fully aware that South Park is not a fan of political correctness but "Chinpokomon" is just plain vile and racist. One of the main running gags is "teehee, Japanese men's penises are so small!" Stone and Parker, are you trying to compensate for something? I also hate the Unfortunate Implications that Japan secretly wants revenge on the United States and are plotting another Pearl Harbor and therefore should never be trusted. I don't care if one of the creators married a Japanese woman (hell, that's not even evidence that they aren't racist douchebags), this episode was absolute garbage.

I cut this, as it is a whole episode, and only specific moments are allowed in D Mo S pages.

Dec 31st 2014 at 5:26:05 AM •••

  • Super Saiya Man: "Rain Forest Schmainforest" is the biggest DMOS South Park has ever produced. Advocating the destruction of the rain forest, the Kick the Dog moments to Costa Rica, Cartman's constant bitching about how sucky the place is which is how what Trey Parker really feels after going to vacation there. The horrible Getting Gay With Kids song. And Kenny's one shot girlfriend who revives him at the end. All add up to a horrible episode.
    • Ogodei: I concur with the reasons for this episode being a DMOS, but it really emphasizes itself since it runs against the message the show usually gives, which is taking a moderate approach to environmentalism, like in "Smug" where they said hybrid cars were good so long as the people driving them weren't smug jerks, or in "Goobacks" where they (at least temporarily) advocated fixing the earth now so that it doesn't suck later, so this episode was also inconsistent in terms of message.
    • Dr Zulu 2010: I third this. In addition of all the troper above me said, the next episode after this one (litteraly on the DVD) was about how you should fart moderably (long story) or that will create more greenhouse gases to be released in the atmosphere. And that shows the hypocritism of the situation; You're all about advocating destroying the rain forest, litteraly the lungs of the planet, yet you tell us next episode to be more careful about the atmosphere!? This is why I always skipped this episode when I watched the DVD.

I cut this as the initial entry violates the rule against calling an entire episode a D Mo S, and the 2 responses violate the no Natter rule.

Dec 31st 2014 at 5:19:07 AM •••

  • WolfMan16: The early episode "Terrance and Phillip in Not Without My Anus". The episode didn't feature the boys at all and instead of them, they played nothing more than fart jokes condensed down into a 22 minute half hour episode. That isn't the worst part though, the worst part about this episode is that it originally aired in between the Cartman's Mom Is a Dirty Slut two-parter special as an April Fools Day prank. I'm very sure a lot of early viewers weren't pleased about this at all.

I cut this as it's a whole episode, and only specific moments are allowed.

Jul 6th 2014 at 11:32:22 AM •••

Kyle overreacts to everything. It really pissed me off how in Tonsil Trouble he destroyed all Cartman's stuff and couldn't resist beating him up for no reason. That green-hat asshole deserved to see what it's like living with HIV. And in the Jersey episode I nearly threw my TV out the window in that once scene where he slams Cartman into a tree and threatens to kill him. That was unnecessary and cruel. If anyone did that to me I would crush their arm.

Feb 8th 2014 at 12:50:12 PM •••

I found a good pic of Stan facepalming that should be used for South Park DMOS header.

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Nov 16th 2013 at 11:09:04 AM •••

One moment per troper.

  • Codename Bravo: "Manbearpig". To quote Wikipedia: "It parodies the film An Inconvenient Truth , and mocks Al Gore's belief in global warming , equating it to his belief in a mythical beast." Except , of course, that independent NASA scientists confirm what the climate scientists have been saying all along. It is a serious existing problem, not a liberal conspiracy.

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Aug 4th 2010 at 12:47:50 PM •••

Old entries that were cut.

  • "Scott Tenorman Must Die." Cartman forcing Scott to eat chili made from his own parents... ugh, I get Cartman's supposed to be a jerkass, but that crossed over to Complete Monster and was, overall, more than a tiny bit creepy.
    • It gets creepier: "201" has The Reveal that Scott's father is also Cartman's.
    • I'd say this one almost goes beyond regular, since "Scott Tenorman Must Die" is on pretty much every top episode, fan favorite, and classic Cartman moment list out there.
      • What do you mean exactly it "goes beyond the regular?" because it is popular? Because people have a different opinion than you?
      • Dude, calm the hell down. All they're saying is a lot of people loved the episode - sure, it might be a DMOS for a few, but it was a CMOA or otherwise for more. Such is the nature of the trope.
        • Well, sorry. I was wondering if he was basically saying "it goes beyond the regular of a normal dethroning moment of suck because people like it."
    • THANK YOU! I thought I was one of the few people who saw Cartman for what he is: a Complete Monster, and can' even think about that episode without feeling grossed out.
  • The end of the South Park episode "Stanley's Cup." The show had been subverting tropes for years. So trying to play up a straight use of a trope, and then acting as though subverting it was supposed to be a big shock? That was the biggest Wall Banger I ever got from that show. (Lord TNK)
  • The episode "With Apologies to Jesse Jackson" really felt up against me the wrong way. The moral of this episode is that no white person could understand the pain a black person feels when he or she is called a 'nigger'. This episode puts a lot of emphasis on racial catagorization which contradicts the moral of the earlier episode "Chef Goes Nanners".
    • Also, the subplot with Cartman and the midget had a very unsatisfying payoff which had Cartman coming out as a blatant Karma Houdini.
  • Just like the "Homer getting raped by a panda part", there was a part of South Park I also felt there was absolutely no justification for. Chef goes on vacation with this club he recently joined. Sounds innocent enough, but when he gets back...he becomes a pedophile who's obsessed with having sex with children. I can put up with a lot of things, but I draw the line at defiling the coolest character on the show.
    • OK, this one must at least be understood in context. That episode was a blatant Take That! against Chef's voice actor Isaac Hayes, who had just left the show in response an episode bashing Scientology (despite them bashing everything else until them). Matt and Trey felt personally insulted by his decision to leave, and figured that it just wouldn't be South Park if they handled the situation with quiet dignity. And thus, they (less obviously) made fun of Scientology further with that episode, and killed off poor Chef in a very undignified way.
  • I am only an occasional viewer of Ghost Hunters, but even he knows what a massive Critical Research Failure the parody in the South Park episode Dead Celebrities was. TAPS not only usually stays pretty calm in the face of weird events, but they debunk mostly everything they see. A lot of fans are actually turned off by their extreme skepticism. I don't expect in-depth knowledge, but it's about as accurate as someone parodying South Park and portraying it as a Disney-style kids' cartoon.
    • Exactly. The joke COULD have worked, if South Park had portrayed the Ghost Hunters squad differently (such as their knack for often claiming a place isn't haunted when evidence suggesting otherwise is very clear). However, ANYONE watching ONE EPISODE of Ghost Hunters could see that they almost NEVER get freaked out by "tapping" noises (it's always the plumbing and they more or less instigate noises from ghosts rather than run away like scared schoolgirls from them.
  • "The F Word": A few days after the Matthew Shepard and James Byrd, Jr. Hate Crimes Prevention Act passed, South Park did an episode about the word "fag" being applied to bikers instead of homosexuals which argued that the word is arbitrary and featured a black man being tied in chains and dragged around by bikers in a manner reminiscent of James Byrd's death. The show thrives on Ripped from the Headlines, but completely dismissing the legitimate concerns about slurs (which they themselves articulated in "With Apologies to Jesse Jackson" and "Chef Goes Nanners") while mocking the death of a man killed for racial reasons, all in response to hate crime legislation, was disgusting.
    • What also sucked is how the boys were treated by that bitchy mayor. They're just kids! Why should you bother?! Sure, they called the bikers said word, but they deserved it for ruining everyone's fun with their noisy motorcycles!
  • That episode with the internet going down; more specifically, Randy Marsh's 'release' when he sneaks into the one working computer to look at porn. It tried to cross the line twice and, as far as I am concerned, failed miserably.
  • For me, it was the episode A Million Little Fibers. Towelie was introduced as a joke character, lampshaded when Cartman calls him "the worst character ever" in his debut episode. Then, they decided to make an entire episode about him and Oprah's talking nether-regions. Towelie ended up being popular and fans wanted more, so they set out to create an episode so bad no one would ever want to see Towelie again.
    • That would explain why the episode spends whole minutes doing nothing but showing static close-ups of said nether-regions (with clothes over them). You know it's bad when you're criticizing the laziness of the animators in an episode of South Park.
  • It's hard to pick a single "Butters gets grounded for all the wrong reasons"-DMOS. How about the ending of the episode where every girl wanted to be a slut? His parents sold him to Paris Hilton, and when she disappeared in Mr. Slave's ass, not being able to pay them, take a wild guess what happens to Butters. Good lord, they reached a level of unlikableness Zapp Brannigan can only dream of!
  • I was really pissed at the subplot of "Major Boobage". Kyle's dad Gerald becomes a Jerkass and has all of the cats taken away from South Park just because their urine is a "drug" that is used for "cheesing". And the worst part? While he and his friends were helping Kenny to stop cheesing, Kyle foolishly takes one of the cats home, and then his mother Shiela finds it in his dresser drawer while putting away laundry, leading to a brief argument/intervention. To add insult to injury, his parents didn't even give him a chance to explain, Shiela accuses him of lying, and Gerald grounds him. Why do Trey and Matt hate Kyle so much these days?! (Cabbit Girl Emi)
    • In that case, the episode "Pee". Well, let's see: Kyle is forced to DRINK it and eat a banana later. Why am I mentioning the banana? Because he hates them even more than pee, and HE GETS KILLED IF HE DOESN'T DO IT. What. The. Fuck.
      • The banana was thought to be the cure for the so-called urinary madness because it pacified the monkeys the government urinated on. Remember, in South Park, Adults Are Useless. What's really bad is that Randy got to be the hero instead of Kyle. Randy's so overrated. (Cabbit Girl Emi)
  • How about just Kyle bashing in general since season 4? What the hell did he do to deserve it? Nothing! Sure, he and Cartman are Vitriolic Best Buds, but Cartman usually does it first. It's bad enough that Cartman bashes him, but several other characters have done that at least once, including and up to HIS OWN BEST FRIEND, STAN MARSH. Geez, why? Why, exactly? Why? It's bad enough that Butters gets bashed!
    • And there's the occasional negativity between Stan and his father Randy. Should we let a weirdo like Randy get pissed at a bright kid like Stan for no adequate reason some of the time? NO! Stan bashing is worse than Butters bashing, but Kyle bashing is still the worst. (Cabbit Girl Emi)
      • Agreed that the Kyle bashing needs to just friggin' stop already. While it's normal for sane and innocent people to get the short end of the stick on this show, the writers seem to get off on hurting Kyle! At least for all the crap Butters goes through he has yet to lose his faith in humanity and almost die from a hemorrhoid.
  • The Indiana Johnes subplot of "China Problem". The kids spend the whole episode angsting and whining over a shitty quadruqel to a cheesy flick and treating it as Serious Business and NOBODY calls them out on how pathetic they look. Moreover, adults join them in their laments and the universal whinefest culminates with exposing Lucas and Spielberg as real-life rapists of movie characters. WHERE THE HELL IS SUBVERSION IN HERE?!! Common, this is South Park! The ultimate slaughterhouse of sacred cows! They had a perfect opportunity to ridicule both Hollywood actors for being shameless money-grubbing harlots AND whimpering movie fans, and they completely botched it.
  • I find shows like South Park to be offensively bad, whether they take Refuge in Vulgarity or not. But having Steve Irwin appear at a halloween party right after he died is beyond tasteless. He's even impaled with that Stingray and appeared in front of Satan. There's not anything funny about that, and it was in the worst taste possible.
  • The episode "More Crap" in general. Just...ew, okay? Did we really need an entire episode dedicated to that?! Mr. Hankey and the show's occasional poop jokes are one thing, but this was just too much. Ew, ew, ew.

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Sep 8th 2010 at 6:19:37 PM •••

Hennifer Lopez is a hand puppet that Cartman faked for the sole purpose of fucking with Kyle. It didn't die.

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